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Originally posted by doodab View PostIt's popularly attributed to the "Mediterranean diet"
That of course is something else that's often overlooked. There is a lot more to public health than simply treating people once they are ill. Prevention is better than cure and all that.
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Originally posted by woohoo View PostAnyway ignore Germany, Italy are way ahead of us, could it be because their health service brings all the boys to yard, damn right its better than yours. *cant stop singing this.
That of course is something else that's often overlooked. There is a lot more to public health than simply treating people once they are ill. Prevention is better than cure and all that.
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Originally posted by woohoo View PostAnyway ignore Germany, Italy are way ahead of us, could it be because their health service brings all the boys to yard, damn right its better than yours. *cant stop singing this.
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Originally posted by doodab View Post
Anyway ignore Germany, Italy are way ahead of us, could it be because their health service brings all the boys to yard, damn right its better than yours. *cant stop singing this.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostI didn't say it did, I was pointing out the flaw in your argument. You said the NHS couldn't be considered efficient if its goal was keeping people healthy, but in general people are healthy and live longer than they used to.
People in the UK go to hospital to die.
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Originally posted by doodab View PostFor the (non-ultrasound) scans I have had as an inpatient I've usually gone to the A&E machines which are free and running 24x7. The outpatient scanning departments tend to be 9-5 monday-friday operations.
I think a bigger problem might be actually finding the staff, rather than what they cost. Every ward I've been on has had several nurses and healthcare assistants from the "staff bank" working extra shifts cos they just don't have the people full time.
You're awfully quiet since ma post about how you work longer hours for your extra life.
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Originally posted by woohoo View PostJust because our life expectancy increases does not mean the NHS/GP service is efficient.
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Originally posted by vetran View Postwell I suspect there is plenty of slack with the machines, I have never been invited in the evenings or weekends. Staffing costs I suspect are actually a very small part of the overall.
I think a bigger problem might be actually finding the staff, rather than what they cost. Every ward I've been on has had several nurses and healthcare assistants from the "staff bank" working extra shifts cos they just don't have the people full time.
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostBut isn't it a bit like programming, in that if you have to fix a bug in something you've just been working on it's a lot easier than fixing a bug in something you did 6 months ago? If patients are in the system for a year because of the delays, doctors must have 100s of patients on the go. It would be much more efficient if doctors were able to focus on a much smaller number of patients,as each one would be sorted out in a couple weeks.
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Originally posted by doodab View Post
According to the OECD the UK has a longer life expectancy than Germany both overall and for men, but lower for women, and Germany spends more per patient per year and more as a %age of GDP to boot.
You have a funny idea of what efficient means.
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostOr just pay for healthcare. I wonder if I should have offered cash when I was first referred.
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