GP service, lazy bastards

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well I suspect there is plenty of slack with the machines, I have never been invited in the evenings or weekends. Staffing costs I suspect are actually a very small part of the overall.

For the (non-ultrasound) scans I have had as an inpatient I've usually gone to the A&E machines which are free and running 24x7. The outpatient scanning departments tend to be 9-5 monday-friday operations.

I think a bigger problem might be actually finding the staff, rather than what they cost. Every ward I've been on has had several nurses and healthcare assistants from the "staff bank" working extra shifts cos they just don't have the people full time.

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Just because our life expectancy increases does not mean the NHS/GP service is efficient.

I didn't say it did, I was pointing out the flaw in your argument. You said the NHS couldn't be considered efficient if its goal was keeping people healthy, but in general people are healthy and live longer than they used to.

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For the (non-ultrasound) scans I have had as an inpatient I've usually gone to the A&E machines which are free and running 24x7. The outpatient scanning departments tend to be 9-5 monday-friday operations.

I think a bigger problem might be actually finding the staff, rather than what they cost. Every ward I've been on has had several nurses and healthcare assistants from the "staff bank" working extra shifts cos they just don't have the people full time.

You're awfully quiet since ma post about how you work longer hours for your extra life.

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You're awfully quiet since ma post about how you work longer hours for your extra life.

I'm working.

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I didn't say it did, I was pointing out the flaw in your argument. You said the NHS couldn't be considered efficient if its goal was keeping people healthy, but in general people are healthy and live longer than they used to.

Let's be clear. The primary business of the NHS is not to make people healthy.

People in the UK go to hospital to die.

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Compare your country by OECD

You might need to dial the countries in yourself.

well that was interesting, I've now read several sources that report different information.

Anyway ignore Germany, Italy are way ahead of us, could it be because their health service brings all the boys to yard, damn right its better than yours. *cant stop singing this.

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I'm working.

Aaaaway.

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Anyway ignore Germany, Italy are way ahead of us, could it be because their health service brings all the boys to yard, damn right its better than yours. *cant stop singing this.

Or because they value a healthy lifestyle.

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Anyway ignore Germany, Italy are way ahead of us, could it be because their health service brings all the boys to yard, damn right its better than yours. *cant stop singing this.

It's popularly attributed to the "Mediterranean diet"

That of course is something else that's often overlooked. There is a lot more to public health than simply treating people once they are ill. Prevention is better than cure and all that.

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It's popularly attributed to the "Mediterranean diet"

That of course is something else that's often overlooked. There is a lot more to public health than simply treating people once they are ill. Prevention is better than cure and all that.

well from what I've read, Italy modelled it's health service on the NHS but invested a whole load more cash in it. It's only recently that we have caught up. Perhaps they managed to make their health service more efficient