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Previously on "Tonight the gagging law is passed"
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I presume you mean (as one commentator puts it) the "The Protection of Corporate Lobbying and Silencing of Legitimate Debate bill" which I posted about a few weeks back. This was originally known as the 'lobbying bill' and was meant to limit the activities of corporate lobbying and in fact part 1 of the bill does address that, honestly, no really, actually the bill protects in-house corporate lobbying operations from any kind of official scrutiny, meaning that a cloak of secrecy will still shroud their influence upon politicians but its the second part of the bill which is the real bastard. This is clearly designed to silence critics of the government such as charities, voluntary organisations, protest groups, trade unions and religions. One example of where this bill would now come into play is when IDS made his tirade against the Trussell Trust over foodbanks, the charity now would not be able to make those claims. I suggest that people also look at another bill which the coalition passed last year, the Justice and Security (Secret Courts) Bill. Basically this means that the defendant, which could be you, can be found guilty in a courtroom that they are not allowed to enter, on charges that they are not allowed to know, based upon evidence that they are not allowed to see.
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostMaybe an example would help.
It is the wish of the government to get fracking underway in the north.
Protest about this policy and you're now breaking the law as of today.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostYes, I was trying to. 38 degrees does not could as objective reporting, they're all singing from the same hymnsheet as you.
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Originally posted by zeitghostDo you think we can have the smart uniforms this time?
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Originally posted by Gittins Gal View PostNone of the dailies here are reporting this (at least I couldn't see it on the Telegraph, Mail or Guardian) so it can't be that much of a deal.
Uless they've all been gagged from reporting on it
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Yes, lobbying groups, including trade unions and charities, are being restricted on how much they can spend.
Originally posted by scooterscot View PostFrom May 2014, the draconian new rules would prevent non-politicians from speaking up on the big issues of the day.
Normally this type of law would be seen as a good thing - look at the US and complaints over the power of lobby groups there.
Originally posted by scooterscotPerhaps take an interest in politics.
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None of the dailies here are reporting this (at least I couldn't see it on the Telegraph, Mail or Guardian) so it can't be that much of a deal.
Uless they've all been gagged from reporting on it
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Originally posted by Pondlife View PostHow do you get that from the links you've posted?
Charities and voluntary groups raise concerns for civil society as controversial bill limits groups' spending ahead of an election
Neither article actually explains what the implications are other than limited spending.
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostMaybe an example would help.
It is the wish of the government to get fracking underway in the north.
Protest about this policy and you're now breaking the law as of today.
Charities and voluntary groups raise concerns for civil society as controversial bill limits groups' spending ahead of an election
Neither article actually explains what the implications are other than limited spending.
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Maybe an example would help.
It is the wish of the government to get fracking underway in the north.
Protest about this policy and you're now breaking the law as of today.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostNo link, no background on what this law is you're blithering on about. Can anyone be bothered to give a proper explanation?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/pages/the_gagging_law
Lobbying bill passes through House of Lords
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostThe government’s has succeeded in passing a new law tonight that will have a chilling effect on British democracy me dears. From May 2014, the draconian new rules would prevent non-politicians from speaking up on the big issues of the day.
What a nanny state. It is something of an outrage that a modern democracy can pass this in to law whist on the other it profiles individuals with their online data and eavesdropping on their communications.
So the next time our glorious leader makes a public statement, just nod like good little puppies.
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