Reply to: Lord Rennard - Should he apologise?

[Project Monkey]

I touched up the company sec. in the kitchen at lunch time. She didn't seem to mind at all.

[minestrone]

I bet he has fantasies about Princes Leia being chained to his neck.

[SueEllen]

Or maybe it's just "balance of probabilities"...

Balance of probabilities.

He should have done his non-apology apology a couple of weeks ago and he would have still been a Lib Dim peer. He could have even got help from a publicist to learn how to act sincere....

[hyperD]

There's a certain schadenfreude when the political elite's own foul excrement enters their food chain.

[DirtyDog]

Guilty until proven innocent from the party that like to go on about civil liberties?

Based on evidence which he says he hasn't been allowed to see, from the party that speaks out so much against secret courts.

[AtW]

Guilty until proven innocent from the party that like to go on about civil liberties?

Or maybe it's just "balance of probabilities"...

[VectraMan]

Guilty until proven innocent from the party that like to go on about civil liberties?

[barrydidit]

e's been suspended. Dirty fecker's probably got a hard on over it. Should have withdrawn the whip.

[vetran]

You had to hitchhike round Italy in the 70s. So many hands on my balls my jeans were shiny.

pity really all the hands came from guys called Alfonso!

[xoggoth]

You had to hitchhike round Italy in the 70s. So many hands on my balls my jeans were shiny.

[vetran]

I think the problem with this whole debate is what, these days, constitutes 'inappropriate' behaviour? Could that be something as simple as putting a hand on a knee? It might make some women feel slightly uncomfortable but it cannot be construed as an offence and therefore the perpetrator cannot be prosecuted. I think if politicians apologised every time they offended someone's sensibilities they wouldn't have any time to make a mess of the country.

In my day instances of inappropriate behaviour were dealt with by a strategically placed elbow

Not sure how people missed the memo, managing females you don't touch full stop. some of the ladies at work who don't work for me are touchy feely with me but they initiate it, I try to discourage it unless its totally appropriate.

I think I touched my female staff member (other than on the hand) twice in 8 years one hug when a relative died and one hug at her leaving do. anything else was completely accidental and obviously so.

Other managers do touch but I find it odd, its so easy to upset someone.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

I think the problem with this whole debate is what, these days, constitutes 'inappropriate' behaviour? Could that be something as simple as putting a hand on a knee? It might make some women feel slightly uncomfortable but it cannot be construed as an offence and therefore the perpetrator cannot be prosecuted. I think if politicians apologised every time they offended someone's sensibilities they wouldn't have any time to make a mess of the country.

In my day instances of inappropriate behaviour were dealt with by a strategically placed elbow

[EternalOptimist]

If I had a pound for everytime a bird had pinched me bum, I'd have two pound fifty.
If they had chained me to the bed and forced me to do 'fings' to them, that would be different, that would be grounds , that would

[Mich the Tester]

If the guy really believes he's done nothing wrong, what value would an apology be to anyone, aside from the political needs?

[pjclarke]

He's innocent in the legal sense of innocent until proven guilty. However the enquiry found compelling evidence of inappropriate behaviour, that did not rise to the level required for a prosecution to stand a good chance of securing a conviction. He sees this as exoneration, therefore no apology is required. However the very same enquiry that he claims 'cleared' him also recommended that an apology would be appropriate. He wants it both ways (no jokes pls). Its all about the message that him carrying on apparently uncontrite would send on the party's position (no jokes again) on sexual harrassment; Cleggy needs to stamp his authority on ..... oh dear



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