Reply to: Do any of you

[original PM]

My fear would be that its a pipedream figure to cover the empire building.....

mmm yes it would not be the first time wildly optimistic sales figures have been used in a business case as justification to go ahead with a project.

[quackhandle]

Money in a hurry?

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HTH.

qh

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Agree, in that case, very sensible to future-proof.

My fear would be that its a pipedream figure to cover the empire building.....

[Platypus]

could in time get to 10000+ orders per day (hopefully)

So not as crazy as it sounds to be honest....

Agree, in that case, very sensible to future-proof.

[original PM]

Is that a serious question? Websphere is an industrial strength product.

I chucked together some PHP (single product purchase) to handle 5-10 per day

Any tin-pot shopping cart on Apache will handle small volumes.

It is - however I believe the plans are to ramp up sales and also sell a number of other products which could in time get to 10000+ orders per day (hopefully)

So not as crazy as it sounds to be honest....

[Platypus]

So if we are say looking at volumes of 5-10 per week we may have wasted our money?

Is that a serious question? Websphere is an industrial strength product.

I chucked together some PHP (single product purchase) to handle 5-10 per day

Any tin-pot shopping cart on Apache will handle small volumes.

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So if we are say looking at volumes of 5-10 per week we may have wasted our money?

We need the net profit per sale to be 100% sure. But I can't see a payback time of 1 billion years (if you ignore running costs) being much of a problem.

[original PM]

IBM websphere is a powerful product, but never really evolved with the times. Microsoft commerce server was at risk of going the same way but the later versions open up various API's and have a lot of decent functionality but in my opinion both of the above are overkill unless you are having a significant level of transactions going through them.

How much would the average sale be?
How many transactions do you expect to process a day?
Is there a requirement for additional shopfaces?

If i were you, I would use a cheap/free solution to dip your toe in the water, then if you get the the point where you are transacting >100000 orders a day then look at migrating the one of the big 5 platforms.

So if we are say looking at volumes of 5-10 per week we may have wasted our money?

[RedSauce]

IBM websphere is a powerful product, but never really evolved with the times. Microsoft commerce server was at risk of going the same way but the later versions open up various API's and have a lot of decent functionality but in my opinion both of the above are overkill unless you are having a significant level of transactions going through them.

How much would the average sale be?
How many transactions do you expect to process a day?
Is there a requirement for additional shopfaces?

If i were you, I would use a cheap/free solution to dip your toe in the water, then if you get the the point where you are transacting >100000 orders a day then look at migrating the one of the big 5 platforms.

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well yes indeed - does not even come with a 'basket' as standard functionality.

I am just rofl ing a lot know as I have been saying to the clueless senior execs for the past 18 months (and £1.5 million) you are wasting time and money buying this to sell a total of 7 (seven) different products on the web.

Someone must be getting a back hander!

nope someone believes the old adage you can't be fired for buying IBM.

7 products you say. So that is £500 for the style (or £25,000 for a design house) and £10 a month for hosting using the site above.....

[original PM]

That's just websphere with a customized / customizable front end to start from. If its anything like the Microsoft commerce server (since offloaded to anyone willing to support it) its great at giving you a noddy ecommerce site from circa 2004 but will be lacking many features you require nowadays......

well yes indeed - does not even come with a 'basket' as standard functionality.

I am just rofl ing a lot know as I have been saying to the clueless senior execs for the past 18 months (and £1.5 million) you are wasting time and money buying this to sell a total of 7 (seven) different products on the web.

Someone must be getting a back hander!

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How does one of these compare with an Enterprise solution such as IBM's websphere commerce server?

That's just websphere with a customized / customizable front end to start from. If its anything like the Microsoft commerce server (since offloaded to anyone willing to support it) its great at giving you a noddy ecommerce site from circa 2004 but will be lacking many features you require nowadays......

[original PM]

How does one of these compare with an Enterprise solution such as IBM's websphere commerce server?

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Actually looking around Ecommerce Software & Online Shopping Cart Solutions by Volusion with a £500 or so template may be a very good deal...

[jimjamuk]

Originally setup a OSCommerce site for the missis and her plans for ecommerce dominance but that was a bit of a chore - eventually moved to a Volusion site with a customised template - you could probably be up and running in a few days with Paypal integration and something like Worldpay within 2-4 weeks