Reply to: I think I'm in the wrong game...

[Project Monkey]

But being a lawyer requires you to be qualified, any old Tom, Dick or Bob can do IT.

Yup, money for old rope this business and you know it.

[vetran]

It would be interesting to see a lawyers aggregate invoice sheets, and see if they bill for 24hours for an 8hour working day.

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[evilagent]

But not the letter k it seems.

indeed or the u if I look closely!

Maybe he was coming to explain it, as he hasn't actually finished the sentence as there is no full stop.

[doodab]

Lawyer alleges there are more than 24 billable hours in a day | Financial Post

“He’s probably billing more than humanly possible. That’s what it sounds like,” said Montgomery County Juvenile Court Judge Nick Kuntz

I thought that was the police's job...

[original PM]

But not the letter k it seems.

indeed or the u if I look closely!

[doodab]

I also now how to use the dewey decimal book cataloging system

But not the letter k it seems.

[Paddy]

It would be interesting to see a lawyers aggregate invoice sheets, and see if they bill for 24hours for an 8hour working day.

Lawyer alleges there are more than 24 billable hours in a day | Financial Post

[evilagent]

Instead they will do an hour’s work and charge for three.

It would be interesting to see a lawyers aggregate invoice sheets, and see if they bill for 24hours for an 8hour working day.

[Paddy]

The average high-street solicitor doesn't bill £800p/h. And "more skill" is hugely subjective.

Instead they will do an hour’s work and charge for three.

[original PM]

all lawyers seem to do is look in books for similar cases to quote precedence...

I also now how to use the dewey decimal book cataloging system

and besides lawyers and solicitors are not interested in justice and law simply the money that can be made from them.

[d000hg]

+1

Having spent much money on litigation I have concluded that there are very few good lawyers, most seem to be utterly incompetent. I find the average IT person has far more skill than the general high street solicitor. With the exception of a few, barristers seem to be specialists in lying via manipulation of words.

The average high-street solicitor doesn't bill £800p/h. And "more skill" is hugely subjective.

[craig1]

Are lawyers and solicitors always fully utilised?
Unless there is client paperwork to do or court appearances to be made, I can imagine quite a bit of sitting behind a desk throwing paper air planes waiting for the phone to ring.

The bigger firms have aggressive billable hours targets. Don't meet them and you're on the slippery slope to oblivion at a lower tier law firm. Typically you're looking at 1800 billable hours a year as a minimum. Some have slightly higher. There was a notable situation in New York when Clifford Chance (a London based firm) set its NY lawyers a target of 2420 billable hours a year to qualify for bonuses or progression and still expected them to attend training and do pro bono work, that caused more fuss for it being leaked than it did for being a ridiculous target.

[CheeseSlice]

Are lawyers and solicitors always fully utilised?
Unless there is client paperwork to do or court appearances to be made, I can imagine quite a bit of sitting behind a desk throwing paper air planes waiting for the phone to ring.

[Paddy]

There's a difference between "can do" and "can do well". The former's a commodity, the latter's where you earn the better money. I suppose it's the same with these lawyers, you don't get to be a parter at a top 5 law firm if you're a lazy party animal with a 3rd class honours from a modern university.

+1

Having spent much money on litigation I have concluded that there are very few good lawyers, most seem to be utterly incompetent. I find the average IT person has far more skill than the general high street solicitor. With the exception of a few, barristers seem to be specialists in lying via manipulation of words.

[craig1]

But being a lawyer requires you to be qualified, any old Tom, Dick or Bob can do IT.

There's a difference between "can do" and "can do well". The former's a commodity, the latter's where you earn the better money. I suppose it's the same with these lawyers, you don't get to be a partner at a top 5 law firm if you're a lazy party animal with a 3rd class honours from a modern university.