How much bureaucracy to kill pimps ?

[Dominic Connor]

Also the other way around the agents should filter the applicants and vouch for their effectiveness.

400 CVs for an entry level job of which all but 10 were completely useless. 30 looked good but 5 minutes on the phone with each filtered them out.
Now if companies could decide what they want and select from a menu of validated candidates it might work.

Clients won't pay for filtering. The current situation is that they pay more than they should for the service they get but won't pay enough for the service they want.

[TheFaQQer]

One reason recruiters exist is the reluctance of contractors to use databases.

I use one all day, every day that I'm paid to work.

[vetran]

Also the other way around the agents should filter the applicants and vouch for their effectiveness.

400 CVs for an entry level job of which all but 10 were completely useless. 30 looked good but 5 minutes on the phone with each filtered them out.

Now if companies could decide what they want and select from a menu of validated candidates it might work.

The pimp also acts as an easy way to say goodbye.

[amcdonald]

Isn't that what LinkedIn does?

If you keep your profile upto date exclients jsust get spammed to death by agents trying to get a foothold in their companies preferred supplier list

I'd give anything without agencies in the chain a try, but back it up with insurance for non payment and you'd have a deal broker

[BigRed]

+1, but agents infest Linkedin as well. My calls these days from agents are 50/50 from Jobserve and Linkedin

[eek]

See contractor club. All that company needs to do is post their requirements there and people will apply for appropriate ones.

[Alias]

One reason recruiters exist is the reluctance of contractors to use databases.

Take as an example one of the largest users of external IT resource in the UK

In some cases they have a contractor whose rate is added to by an agent then by a consultancy which means they pay a lot more than the going rate for work.

They hand out enough work that I think it would be rational for a contractor to fill in the online form, cut&paste a bit of text from their CV and when poked every 6 months or so, update the boxes.
Managers who needed stuff done would then be able to search for skills, picking out the ones they want.

The costs would be maintaining the online database and the people who'd poke you every so often to update, there would never be any "we want two references before we submit your CV" nonsense.

In fact there would be no recruiter in this process at all, no salesmen, no need for the agency to buffer the payments between client and contractor so we'd be looking at (I guess) a flat 10% margin for providing a self service solution.

Would contractors sign up for such a thing ?

Isn't that what LinkedIn does?

[Dominic Connor]

One reason recruiters exist is the reluctance of contractors to use databases.

Take as an example one of the largest users of external IT resource in the UK

In some cases they have a contractor whose rate is added to by an agent then by a consultancy which means they pay a lot more than the going rate for work.

They hand out enough work that I think it would be rational for a contractor to fill in the online form, cut&paste a bit of text from their CV and when poked every 6 months or so, update the boxes.
Managers who needed stuff done would then be able to search for skills, picking out the ones they want.

The costs would be maintaining the online database and the people who'd poke you every so often to update, there would never be any "we want two references before we submit your CV" nonsense.

In fact there would be no recruiter in this process at all, no salesmen, no need for the agency to buffer the payments between client and contractor so we'd be looking at (I guess) a flat 10% margin for providing a self service solution.

Would contractors sign up for such a thing ?