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Previously on "This Egypt Business"

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by Ticktock View Post
    The problem with that is the way Morsi was consolidating power may have meant that either they wouldn't have got another election, or it would in no way have been a fair election.
    WHS. Like Russia, Saddam's Iraq, Bob's Zimbabwe, etc

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  • Ticktock
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    Originally posted by NorthWestPerm2Contr View Post
    4) They should have waited for the next election and then brought in somebody more secular and more interested in the welfare of ordinary Egyptians

    Simples.
    The problem with that is the way Morsi was consolidating power may have meant that either they wouldn't have got another election, or it would in no way have been a fair election.

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  • NorthWestPerm2Contr
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    It's funny how a lot of people in this thread have spoken about supporting democracy only to then contradict themselves.

    1) I don't support the MB of course, I think they are quite nasty and their support of the butchers of the FSA in Syria displays their true colours

    2) Morsi has been democratically elected in a country which has never experienced democracy before. It was inevitably going to take decades for it to start to work

    3) Once the Egyptians had a taste of being ruled by Islamism, they realised they were wrong to elect the MB

    4) They should have waited for the next election and then brought in somebody more secular and more interested in the welfare of ordinary Egyptians

    Simples.

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  • oscarose
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    This too shall pass.

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  • alreadypacked
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    What is happening in Egypt is a battle between Islamists and more moderate Muslims who don't want to be another Iran.
    It's a battle for power.

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  • sasguru
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    What is happening in Egypt is a battle between Islamists and more moderate Muslims who don't want to be another Iran.

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  • EternalOptimist
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    Apparently the Muslim brotherhood get 2 virgins for every new brother they recruit, but they have to give 1 virgin to the brother that recruited him

    sounds good but these Pyramid schemes never work out in the end









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  • amcdonald
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    It will be jihad central over there soon.

    They might have to start putting a limit on how many prunes they get in heaven such will be the carnage.
    FTFY

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Hitler was also democratically elected.
    That's a very good point.

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  • quackhandle
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    Sorry to go off tangent, but I got the impression (from a rather good Docu-drama with Robert Carlisle as Adolf) that they let AH in power but they (Hindenburg et al) still thought they could control the "Bavarian Corporal", not realising how powerful he was/to become.


    qh

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  • minestrone
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    It will be jihad central over there soon.

    They might have to start putting a limit on how many virgins they get in heaven such will be the carnage.

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  • doodab
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    Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
    Whearas here democracy means choosing who we whinge about for the next 5 years
    FTFY

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  • alreadypacked
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    My guess is Morsi tried to impose some control on the army in Egypt. They would not allow their independence to be taken away, so the supported the Anti-Morsi group.

    Now the army should release Morsi, but they need to stop all protests before he is released. Because if there are any protests after he is released he can be blamed him and arrested him again.

    Danger is, if the crackdown is too hard they will end-up with terrorists, if the army backs down and allows Morsi back, within 2 years they will be helping (invading) Libya etc. 5 years

    <Spin doctor> Egyptian army need to identify some of the dead as Irianian etc. Big plot to take over the country. </Spin doctor>

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  • amcdonald
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    One problem is that in those countries many people think that democracy is getting majority vote that can force their views on minorities.

    In those countries way too often democratically elected leaders took full power and did not give a tulip about democracy afterwards.

    Perhaps that should be the duty of any army - make sure no such thing can happen in order to upheld democracy.
    Whearas here democracy means the establishment lording it over us whoever we vote for

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  • amcdonald
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Hitler's popular vote was 43.91% [1], which is just over Bliar's result in 1997 which was 43.2% [2].

    Sources:

    [1] German federal election, March 1933 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    [2] United Kingdom general election, 1997 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Both waged illegal wars though

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