Reply to: Stupid question

[NotAllThere]

Have you met any young earth creationists? I put them in the same category as anti-vacciners, tin-foil hat wearers and 911 conspiracy theorists. While I have my set of beliefs, I'm happy to discuss and debate them. I'm interested in the opposition's point of view and try to understand it (the better to rebut it, my dear). I believe that faith can have a rational basis, and that it's possible to have reasonable discussions about it (online forums notwithstanding, where it's much more fun to just slag each other off). If I find evidence that suggests my beliefs are incorrect, I'm happy to change my beliefs. Young earthers are "true believers". They're not amenable to discussion.

Richard Dawkins gets his worldview ridiculed as well. Have you seen the latest Private Eye?

I'm not claiming that anyone shouldn't ridicule my beliefs, so I can't be accused of hypocrisy on that score.

[mudskipper]

FTFY.

It seems odd to me that a religious person, who, presumably, sometimes get ridiculed about his beliefs, would dismiss those with differing religious beliefs as cretins.

[NotAllThere]

It's not indoctrination. You are going to hell.

(I'm here to tell you the Good News
Good news? What's that?
You're going to hell
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.
.
What's the bad news?)

[OwlHoot]

It's the indoctrination type stuff that I would worry about "you're going to hell" etc. I am sure (hopeful?) my kids will see it for what it is when they are able.

I can't imagine there's much if any of that these days, at least in the UK.

But in any case, if you had it as a kid and survived then what makes you think your kids will fare any worse? Were you smarter or tougher than them at the same age?

[MyUserName]

It's the indoctrination type stuff that I would worry about "you're going to hell" etc. I am sure (hopeful?) my kids will see it for what it is when they are able.

Yep, same here.

[jmo21]

My daughter is on her way to a faith school in September, it is the best school in the area. My wife wants her dedicated, goes to Christian play groups etc. I do not really care, it is not causing any harm at the moment and she enjoys it. It also makes life seem a lot less scary for her.

That's kind of my feeling on it for now, though they aren't at that age yet.

It's the indoctrination type stuff that I would worry about "you're going to hell" etc. I am sure (hopeful?) my kids will see it for what it is when they are able.

[MyUserName]

So that's what Mrs Ticktock was mumbling about.

I assumed she was talking to the other guys but she did have her mouth full I guess.

[MyUserName]

I wouldn't let that pass.

I can understand going to church as your wife likes it etc, and I'm sure she knows how you feel (she does doesn't she?), but I certainly wouldn't be letting anyone else, family or not talk that way to my children.

Yeah she knows, they all do as I am quite open about it when asked. Friends at the church know too but most of them do not make a big deal out of it. I sometimes let loose at the creationalists in laws, mainly when they post nonsense on facebook e.g. anti-homosexual stuff, science denial etc. However, I am expected to keep quiet at family gatherings to keep the peace. It is only one or two of them that come out with this when I am there and my wife usually bitch slaps them in private and reminds them to respect my opinions etc.

Is your wife the fire and brimstone way? I'm not sure I could handle that kind of difference between me and my missus.

Not so much. They are more of the happy clappy crowd. One or two them at the church are 'Christian scientists' who give talks about why science is wrong and how it actually shows the bible is right (I guess those bits of science are not wrong or something). I generally avoid conversations with them about it unless they corner me as I am concerned it will cause tension if I argue back.

As it is she is a lapsed catholic (or whatever you call it), our kids will be going to catholic school when old enough because they are the best schools where we live, so have been christened etc.

My daughter is on her way to a faith school in September, it is the best school in the area. My wife wants her dedicated, goes to Christian play groups etc. I do not really care, it is not causing any harm at the moment and she enjoys it. It also makes life seem a lot less scary for her.

[NotAllThere]

I do go to church but only to look after my children whilst my wife listens to the service and gets involved, I sometimes get involved with the housegroup meetings depending on what is happening and sing in the church choir. However, I am an atheist and have to quietly grind my teeth at family occaisions whilst some of my wife's close family who are young earth cretinists spout their anti science rubbish and subtly threaten my daughter with burning in hell unless she agrees with them etc.

FTFY.

[Old Greg]

I thought the origin of the term was that you were earning money to pay your rent, not that you were charging rent for fitting people down your throat, but I guess everyone has to make a living.

So that's what Mrs Ticktock was mumbling about.

[jmo21]

and have to quietly grind my teeth at family occaisions whilst some of my wife's close family who are young earth creationalists spout their anti science rubbish and subtly threaten my daughter with burning in hell unless she agrees with them etc.

I wouldn't let that pass.

I can understand going to church as your wife likes it etc, and I'm sure she knows how you feel (she does doesn't she?), but I certainly wouldn't be letting anyone else, family or not talk that way to my children.

Is your wife the fire and brimstone way? I'm not sure I could handle that kind of difference between me and my missus.

As it is she is a lapsed catholic (or whatever you call it), our kids will be going to catholic school when old enough because they are the best schools where we live, so have been christened etc.

[Ticktock]

I just came very close to Googling "Rent Boy" to find the origin of the term, then suddenly thought better of it.

Especially on a ClientCo PC.

[MyUserName]

I thought the origin of the term was that you were earning money to pay your rent, not that you were charging rent for fitting people down your throat, but I guess everyone has to make a living.

I always assumed that the term was referring to renting a person rather than what they person spent the money on?

[Ticktock]

I have learned that I should start charging some people rent!

I thought the origin of the term was that you were earning money to pay your rent, not that you were charging rent for fitting people down your throat, but I guess everyone has to make a living.

[MyUserName]

you've learned how many people can fit down yer throat

I have learned that I should start charging some people rent!