Reply to: Ethical / legal / theological question

[Gibbon]

It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife...

So he can lose said possession and give him something to moan about ad infinitum.

[mudskipper]

( For information and not NAT, an axiom or postulate is a universally accepted truth).

It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife...

[Gibbon]

and...?

I don't think so. I'm studying the Reformation(s) at the moment, and one of the major thrusts was the elimination of superstition from Christian practice.

Oh the irony! So Augustine and his ilk rail against traditional (pagan) superstition compared with rational Christianity and then the Church he helped form is accused of superstition by later reformers.

Trouble with your axioms is they are unknowable and require faith and as such do not actually qualify as axioms outside a faith community ( For information and not NAT, an axiom or postulate is a universally accepted truth).

[NotAllThere]

I don't think Pelagius or Augustine would agree with you.

and...?

Anyway isn't religion basically philosophy supported by superstition?

I don't think so. I'm studying the Reformation(s) at the moment, and one of the major thrusts was the elimination of superstition from Christian practice.

I suppose it could depend on your definition of superstition. For me, superstition is like throwing salt over your shoulder if you spill it, fearing Friday the 13th - that kind of thing. Beliefs, but there not logically connected to anything else. The whole basis of theology is starting with axioms (like "God exists", "God cares about humanity" or whatever), and then exploring that logically and rationally.

[Old Greg]

look, there have been a few comments over the past few weeks (and I havnt even been paying attention), but they seem to have gone over your head.
Noone wishes you harm. but you have to listen to what others are saying

Or on the other hand, it doesn't really matter.

[Gibbon]

mythtery

You're right though. Determinism vs freewill is a philosophical question, not religious.

I don't think Pelagius or Augustine would agree with you.

Anyway isn't religion basically philosophy supported by superstition?

[NotAllThere]

if that's the best you have, maybe you should stop playing with the big boys

I prefer:

Here's a ball.
go play with it. The adults are talking.

[EternalOptimist]

Yeah, sure you were. I have packing to do for a 5 day trip with the wife and kids but you and the other 'big boys' are welcome to keep up the name calling and insults on here whilst I am away if you want to really show your superiority.

look, there have been a few comments over the past few weeks (and I havnt even been paying attention), but they seem to have gone over your head.
Noone wishes you harm. but you have to listen to what others are saying

[MyUserName]

er...
I was trying to say, politely, that you are dull, unimaginative, boorish and ever so slightly boring.
and that your insults come from the 'ya-boo' playground and you lack any spark, initiative or originality

I always prefer politeness, but if you want both barrells. you can have em

bang bang

Yeah, sure you were. I have packing to do for a 5 day trip with the wife and kids but you and the other 'big boys' are welcome to keep up the name calling and insults on here whilst I am away if you want to really show your superiority.

[EternalOptimist]

You've got me there - clearly I am no match for you in the randomly insulting strangers on the internet game!



If you honestly think that insulting a stranger anonymously over a web forum makes someone a 'big boy' then you have bigger problems than your lack of historical knowledge and being unable to admit you are wrong.

er...
I was trying to say, politely, that you are dull, unimaginative, boorish and ever so slightly boring.
and that your insults come from the 'ya-boo' playground and you lack any spark, initiative or originality

I always prefer politeness, but if you want both barrells. you can have em

bang bang

[MyUserName]

Keep going. That is quite a record of consecutive dribble you are building.

You've got me there - clearly I am no match for you in the randomly insulting strangers on the internet game!

if that's the best you have, maybe you should stop playing with the big boys

If you honestly think that insulting a stranger anonymously over a web forum makes someone a 'big boy' then you have bigger problems than your lack of historical knowledge and being unable to admit you are wrong.

[EternalOptimist]

Mainly because most pork is far more educated than you?

if that's the best you have, maybe you should stop playing with the big boys

[shaunbhoy]

Mainly because most pork is far more educated than you?

Keep going. That is quite a record of consecutive dribble you are building.

[MyUserName]

You can't educate Pork, regardless of how quickly you might try.

Mainly because most pork is far more educated than you?

[MyUserName]

There is so much about life that must be unexpected to you. That will be your limited intellect allied to the fact that you are glacially slow on the uptake.

HTH

It is as fast as I need to be to stay well ahead of you.