Reply to: Mass redundancies

[DaveB]

I'm struggling with this idea of proggy being more intelligent than a member.

ftfy.

[TheFaQQer]

Don't know why you lot are complaining, short-termist thinking, protracted over the long haul, means MORE bubble for us contractors, not less.

I thought you were a permie trying to move into a contract with the same employer? Or have you left and found a contract now?

[Gym beast]

Don't know why you lot are complaining, short-termist thinking, protracted over the long haul, means MORE bubble for us contractors, not less.

Macro-economically it's a screwed up idea.

[No2politics]

Nah someone smoking in the toilet.

Probably not the best idea to joke that we were getting an en mass 'don't come Monday', whilst they padlocked the building

[SueEllen]

Fire alarm had just been pulled. Suspect a disgruntled employee has taken offence and decided to torch the place. Ah well.

Nah someone smoking in the toilet.

[DodgyAgent]

There's a hierarchy of ever lower levels of intelligence

Idiot
Moron
Cretin
Proggy

Is that in reverse order?

[No2politics]

Fire alarm had just been pulled. Suspect a disgruntled employee has taken offence and decided to torch the place. Ah well.

[Mich the Tester]

In any knowledge based high skill environment humans should be treated as investments rather than resources.

Or in fact, and this is a revolutionary idea, treated like humans, with hopes, fears, aspirations, weaknesses and a desire to do something meaningful. Again, we come back to German economic dominance, Weber, Kant, Schopenhauer and the rest.

Basically, people don't want to work for money grabbing tulipheads with no skills.

[doodab]

In any knowledge based high skill environment humans should be treated as investments rather than resources.

[Mich the Tester]

Yep, it costs a fortune to lay people off in Germany as their employment laws prevent casual layoffs.

Not so different to anywhere else in Europe actually
The Dismissal by Employer or Employee - Working-in-Germany

The difference is that German business owners don't tend to want to hire and fire, unless using temporary workers or contractors. Seeing as many managers in Germany are skilled people who understand the trade they're managing, they value keeping experience and knowledge on board once they've invested in it. As opposed to many managers in the UK, US and increasingly NL, who are essentially unskilled overpaid ballast with MBAs.

[eek]

yeah especially when I am one of them

Ftfy although the original does justify your position on the leader board.

[original PM]

I'm struggling with this idea of proggy being more intelligent than two other members.

yeah especially when I am on of them

[DimPrawn]

It's because cutting headcount is so prohibitively expensive in Germany that they don't do it.

The Germans I know are all "job for lifers" ... there is no job mobility because there are no vacancies, and there are no vacancies because everyone sits tight waiting to retire on their generous pension.

Yep, it costs a fortune to lay people off in Germany as their employment laws prevent casual layoffs.

[Platypus]

like Germany, cutting headcount was seen as a failure

It's because cutting headcount is so prohibitively expensive in Germany that they don't do it.

The Germans I know are all "job for lifers" ... there is no job mobility because there are no vacancies, and there are no vacancies because everyone sits tight waiting to retire on their generous pension.

[MyUserName]

I'm struggling with this idea of proggy being more intelligent than two other members.

I doubt he is more intelligent than mine