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  • doodab
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    So people on benefits or earning in the tax-exempt bracket get no votes?
    They could have a vote, every one would get one, then you'd get one extra for each 10k in tax paid. Corporations would be on a sliding scale so one vote for every zero after the first 5 or something like that.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    No, what we need is taxocracy where the number of votes you have is proportional to the amount of tax paid less benefits.
    So people on benefits or earning in the tax-exempt bracket get no votes?

    You don't own the money you pay in tax and suggesting that paying for votes is a good idea is ludicrous.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
    What we need is a plutocracy. Where the number of votes you have is proportional to the amount of money and value of assets you have.
    No, what we need is taxocracy where the number of votes you have is proportional to the amount of tax paid less benefits.

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Liberal democracy is just a vehicle for capitalism. When it fails, capitalism will continue under the banner of fascism.
    I always thought the neo-con Liberal democracy was just a result of a socio-climatic upheaval due to capitalistic values being subverted by a Marxist economy undergoing a re-evaluation of the Socialist doctrine as prescribed by Imperialist attitudes. Labels, stick 'em up where the sun don't shine...

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    Is there an inherent weakness in liberal democracy that means that, like soviet communism, it will eventually collapse under the weight of it's own internal contradictions?
    Liberal democracy is just a vehicle for capitalism. When it fails, capitalism will continue under the banner of fascism.

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
    It makes sense because if you are smart enough to make lots of money you're likely to be smart enough to know who to choose to run the country well.
    Drug dealers, sex traffickers, bankers, despot dictators, members of parliament, etc. I don't think so somehow.

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  • doodab
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    Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
    It makes sense because if you are smart enough to make lots of money you're likely to be smart enough to know who to choose to run the country well.
    And almost certainly not so stupid as to choose the welfare of the country over self interest

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  • KentPhilip
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    What we need is a plutocracy. Where the number of votes you have is proportional to the amount of money and value of assets you have.

    It makes sense because if you are smart enough to make lots of money you're likely to be smart enough to know who to choose to run the country well.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    Is there an inherent weakness in liberal democracy that means that, like soviet communism, it will eventually collapse under the weight of it's own internal contradictions?
    Given enough time every democracy would outsource most of jobs to non-democratic countries

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    Is there an inherent weakness in liberal democracy that means that, like soviet communism, it will eventually collapse under the weight of it's own internal contradictions?
    Yes, possibly.

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  • doodab
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    Is there an inherent weakness in liberal democracy that means that, like soviet communism, it will eventually collapse under the weight of it's own internal contradictions?

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