Reply to: The Thatcher IT fallacy

[ZARDOZ]

I heard she designed the iPhone, Labour wanted to push on with the Alcatel.

[doodab]

Maybe Dodgy has some inside info, Thatcher actually worked with Sir Tim Berners Lee to invernt the WWW, and before that she worked with DARPA in the US while investing the internet. She did this so that YOU could be in work today as an IT Contractor!!!! Show some respect.!!

Perhaps he got her the gig?

There she was, down at the market buying some veg, and she mentioned to one of the traders how she'd like to work with these new fangled computers but didn't know anything about them. The little light bulb came on in his head. And the rest is history...

[DimPrawn]

Maybe Dodgy has some inside info, Thatcher actually worked with Sir Tim Berners Lee to invernt the WWW, and before that she worked with DARPA in the US while investing the internet. She did this so that YOU could be in work today as an IT Contractor!!!! Show some respect.!!

She also invented Global Warming

Global warming conspiracy theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A desire on the part of conservative political leaders including Margaret Thatcher,[19] and Helmut Kohl[20] to promote nuclear power while attracting the political support of Green groups.

[proggy]

You guys are assuming that Dodgy knows anything about the industry he works in rather being a dodgy spiv.
If he had been of age during the 2nd world war he would have sold lard and eggs and had a dodgy moustache.

Maybe Dodgy has some inside info, Thatcher actually worked with Sir Tim Berners Lee to invernt the WWW, and before that she worked with DARPA in the US while investing the internet. She did this so that YOU could be in work today as an IT Contractor!!!! Show some respect.!!

[sasguru]

She didn't invent IT, but it was one of the few industries she didn't **** into a cocked hat.

All the big utilities were probably running on ICL mainframes when she came in.

The growth of the PC and networking and digital telecoms was largely indepenent of UK politics as far as I can see.

I think we can hazard a guess that Dodgy is from Essex. He's defineitly a few stops past Barking.

And what we are saying is that that the IT revolution would have occurred regardless due to the additional profits made available by lowering costs.

But they didn't. They depressed the development of IT by encouraging a lack of investment. This made british companies uncompetitive and ripe for takeovers, which indirectly created a lot of integration work.

The other big innivation was the perpetual upgrade cycle, and that is an entirely American contribution.

You guys are assuming that Dodgy knows anything about the industry he works in rather being a dodgy spiv.
If he had been of age during the 2nd world war he would have sold lard and eggs and had a dodgy moustache.

[sasguru]

I see your tiny binary brain cannot cope with anything that reaches beyond Janet and John and spot the dog. What I have said was that Thatchers policies stimulated the development of IT by creating a competitive environment that forced companies to become more efficient.

there that cannot be too hard for even you to understand can it?

What I do understand is that your childish, lovestruck, brainwashed attitude combined with a brain the size of a pea makes you spout complete bollox as usual.
Thatchers reign happened to coincide with the growth of IT.
There were plenty of private companies who used and promoted IT even if public sector ones might have been slow to adopt it.
The person who did most to stimulate IT in the UK was probably Sir Clive Sinclair.

[doodab]

I see your tiny binary brain cannot cope with anything that reaches beyond Janet and John and spot the dog. What I have said was that Thatchers policies stimulated the development of IT by creating a competitive environment that forced companies to become more efficient.

there that cannot be too hard for even you to understand can it?

But they didn't. They depressed the development of IT by encouraging a lack of investment. This made british companies uncompetitive and ripe for takeovers, which indirectly created a lot of integration work.

The other big innivation was the perpetual upgrade cycle, and that is an entirely American contribution.

[eek]

I see your tiny binary brain cannot cope with anything that reaches beyond Janet and John and spot the dog. What I have said was that Thatchers policies stimulated the development of IT by creating a competitive environment that forced companies to become more efficient.

there that cannot be too hard for even you to understand can it?

And what we are saying is that that the IT revolution would have occurred regardless due to the additional profits made available by lowering costs.

[doodab]

She didn't invent IT, but it was one of the few industries she didn't **** into a cocked hat.

All the big utilities were probably running on ICL mainframes when she came in.

The growth of the PC and networking and digital telecoms was largely indepenent of UK politics as far as I can see.

I think we can hazard a guess that Dodgy is from Essex. He's defineitly a few stops past Barking.

[DodgyAgent]

I know you started getting this bee in your bonnet yesterday that Thatcher invented IT. And being a complete imbecile you probably believe it. But repeating it ad nauseam doesn't make it true you complete moron.

I see your tiny binary brain cannot cope with anything that reaches beyond Janet and John and spot the dog. What I have said was that Thatchers policies stimulated the development of IT by creating a competitive environment that forced companies to become more efficient.

there that cannot be too hard for even you to understand can it?

[vetran]

We could even get rid of Wales who forever whinge that the Tories destroyed their mines. They can get independence and keep voting Labour forever while we in England can go on about our business and the socialists in Wales and Scotland can spend their time watching Sky all day.

must admit that has been a sneaking ambition of mine, Scotland & Wales separate and paying for themself, I suspect the money would run out quickly.

[fullyautomatix]

What really depresses me is that we still have Scottish representation in our parliament, assisiting in giving the Labour party more seats that it should.

So....come the vote, if you boys up there behave and vote for independence, you get what you want, we get rid of you (and Labour) and everyone is happy. Except the scrounging socialists, and who cares about them anyway.

We could even get rid of Wales who forever whinge that the Tories destroyed their mines. They can get independence and keep voting Labour forever while we in England can go on about our business and the socialists in Wales and Scotland can spend their time watching Sky all day.

[sasguru]

It is unpalatable I know but as I said in another thread the enrichment of job destroying IT contractors were the unintended consequence of Thatcherism.

I know you started getting this bee in your bonnet yesterday that Thatcher invented IT. And being a complete imbecile you probably believe it. But repeating it ad nauseam doesn't make it true you complete moron.

[RasputinDude]

What really depresses me is that so many people seem to have held a central core of bile, spite and hate in their psyche for so long.

It can't be good for their mental health, and if they can feel that way about one person I wonder what they feel about others that they have to bimble through life with.

[eek]

That is utter bollocks. There was no need for the banks to compete. The market was highly regulated and controlled by the state. The Electricity markets likewise why on earth would they have invested in IT when they had no need to. The printing unions would have fought off any attempt to bring in technology safe in the knowledge that their members would have jobs come what may.

It is unpalatable I know but as I said in another thread the enrichment of job destroying IT contractors were the unintended consequence of Thatcherism.

No IT and hence IT contractors would have occurred regardless of the government. The reason is incredibly simple, companies like profits and profits can be created by lowering costs. IT provided the quickest way of lowering those costs for a one off investment.