25 < Unemployment, is USA internship the answer?

[mos]

Used to be that apprentices paid the Master.

Then they were paid a small sum commensurate with their worth.

And then the OldLie brought in legislation in the 70s that increased that over & above their worth.

I guess that's why consulting / audit is ideal for graduates. Hire them and send to the client for training while charging the client the consulting fee.

[Support Monkey]

When i worked for a large media/Magazine publisher they had hundred of graduates working for nothing chasing the carrot of a full time job, it's nothing new, although in the current climate there are more people chasing the free work

[Sysman]

Unpaid internships are quite common in the US as I understand it, but only for desirable jobs - it's essentially a vocational training year? But they would not get any kind of benefits/welfare to support them would they? So either you need to be rich or work a second job to support it...

That is how it used to be for accountants and solicitors in the UK. They originally had to pay to work as articled clerks, so it was restricted to those with parents who could afford it.

After I had started my first job in 1977 I met a schoolmate from a year or two below me who was an articled clerk in a solicitor's office. Where I was getting the princely sum of 45 quid a week he was on something like £14 and still living with his parents.

We both fully expected that once he'd done his time as an articled clerk and passed further exams, his income would easily outstrip mine.

[d000hg]

Unpaid internships are quite common in the US as I understand it, but only for desirable jobs - it's essentially a vocational training year? But they would not get any kind of benefits/welfare to support them would they? So either you need to be rich or work a second job to support it...

[alreadypacked]

you are aware of what the onion is aren't you?

I should have included some more links to some real reports. This one goes back to 2009.

My question; is now the tipping point, the decline of the west. People working for nothing in the hope things might get better. Parents supporting their adult children. In Spain grandparents are supporting 300000 children from their pensions.

Berger also mentioned another development: the rise of the “adult intern.”
Adult interns? Scary.

Intern Abuse? - BusinessWeek

[mos]

Except the same OP started that thread titled "Classic Onion"

Actually it sounded so believable to me .... I am sure that this is happening ... as do prison labour camps.

[Sysman]

that was my thought, i think the OP saw the linky posted this morning and doesn't quite "get" the site

Except the same OP started that thread titled "Classic Onion"

[mos]

you are aware of what the onion is aren't you?

I am sure that some company out there is doing just that this minute ...

[mos]

This is now been abused by employers as a source of free labour, but some say it will change once the economy recovers. Or is free labour hiding bad business models.
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If successful replacement of the full time employees with unpaid inters was possible, than I guess that these were experienced guys driven out of their jobs by H1Bs or experienced guys earlier driven out of their jobs by unpaid interns.

[Ketchup]

you are aware of what the onion is aren't you?

that was my thought, i think the OP saw the linky posted this morning and doesn't quite "get" the site

[eek]

There is a big problem across Europe with unemployed under 25 year-olds

In the USA there is a history of interships that after sometime get offered paid roles (usually after one year)

This is now been abused by employers as a source of free labour, but some say it will change once the economy recovers. Or is free labour hiding bad business models.

The Onion has it's own take



Supervisor Encourages Interns To Take On More Responsibilities Of 3 Full-Time Staff Members | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

you are aware of what the onion is aren't you?

[DodgyAgent]

There is a big problem across Europe with unemployed under 25 year-olds

In the USA there is a history of interships that after sometime get offered paid roles (usually after one year)

This is now been abused by employers as a source of free labour, but some say it will change once the economy recovers. Or is free labour hiding bad business models.

The Onion has it's own take



Supervisor Encourages Interns To Take On More Responsibilities Of 3 Full-Time Staff Members | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

If they are going to work for no pay then they do need to exploit this experience as much as they can to leverage their way into other jobs or into a full time position

[alreadypacked]

There is a big problem across Europe with unemployed under 25 year-olds

In the USA there is a history of interships that after sometime get offered paid roles (usually after one year)

This is now been abused by employers as a source of free labour, but some say it will change once the economy recovers. Or is free labour hiding bad business models.

The Onion has it's own take

You’ll get as much out of this experience as you put into it, so don’t hesitate to take on as many different projects as you can,” said account manager and internship coordinator Brian Pearson, 41, adding that if any of the five unpaid interns ever found themselves without enough to do, they could always come to him for additional assignments intended for paid employees with at least two years of professional experience. “This is a great opportunity, so just try to take advantage of your time with us and learn as much as you can. Having the right attitude goes a long way around here.”

Supervisor Encourages Interns To Take On More Responsibilities Of 3 Full-Time Staff Members | The Onion - America's Finest News Source