Reply to: There's this bloke at work

[BA to the Stars]

Doesn't anyone remember Wilmslow??

How could we ever forget

[SupremeSpod]

All, do please remember who the OP is. "**** up the project half way through" is a standard MO.

[original PM]

if you do not care about the contract then feel free to call this muppet to his face and expose him - he will have the backing of those further up the food chain on you will not be the winner - so expect to need another contract soon.

If you do care about the contract document everything and make sure it is available for review, then slowly let the project fail and ensure each failure can be attirbuted to his decisions - this will have more impact as it does not show a knee jerk reaction.

And remember the further up the food chain you go the less interest there is in success and the more interest there is in covering their asses and ensuring the keep the cushy salary and no body can challenge them - completely different game at that level.

[eek]

That's him

Last heard of having a 'one-to-one' with the PM who had read his digital diarrhoea on the forum.

I dread to think what disease that was considering now

His eyes are orange, his tongue is black, He has purple prickles all over his back.

[cojak]

That's him

Last heard of having a 'one-to-one' with the PM who had read his digital diarrhoea on the forum.

[SupremeSpod]

I must admit I wouldn't DREAM of posting this kind of stuff about a client on here.

Doesn't anyone remember Wilmslow??

Is he the one who worked for a certain Supermarket in Bradford.

Got made redundant.

Talks to kids on the phone quite a lot.

His neighbours aren't too keen on the CCTV system he's set up to spy on their kids.

Last seen having a heart to heart with RC at one of the northern meet-ups.

Is that the one?

[cojak]

I must admit I wouldn't DREAM of posting this kind of stuff about a client on here.

Doesn't anyone remember Wilmslow??

[EternalOptimist]

And not what i said.

Tell them they are useless *****. Preferably in front of everyone else, just in case anyone was under any illusions that they aren't. Then try and solve the problem, quite probably with the help of other people who know that the useless **** is a useless ****.

[doodab]

right ho.

bloke on my project been asked to perform the impossible, and your advice is for me to tell him he is useless.


that is bad advice

And not what i said.

To extend your analogy a bloke on your project has been asked to do the impossiible but doesn't realise it's impossible. You point this out and he starts acting like an arsehole and demanding you find the solution to his impossible problem.

That sounds like a **** to me. I'd tell him. You presumably would suck it up.

[EternalOptimist]

right ho.

bloke on my project been asked to perform the impossible, and your advice is for me to tell him he is useless.


that is bad advice

[doodab]

first off, there not be an 'everybody else'

second, they may be the md

third off, they may be a top bloke who has been drafted out of their comfort zone

there are a load more - try thinking ouside your box

None of those things are an excuse for behaving like an arsehole if someone happens to point out a flaw in your plan without also solving it for you. In fact, for example #3 I'd argue that a top bloke is someone who doesn't start acting like a **** when outside their comfort zone.

[EternalOptimist]

Well, if i'd been kidnapped by maniacs with guns and the cheif maniac kept getting lost or couldn't drive properly or did that thing where he gave the good guy far to many chances to escape and seduce his female sidekick I might consider toning it down but apart from that, no.

first off, there not be an 'everybody else'

second, they may be the md

third off, they may be a top bloke who has been drafted out of their comfort zone


there are a load more - try thinking ouside your box

[doodab]

This is absolutely the worst advice I have ever heard. ever


can you not think of any situation where this is sh!te advice ????

Well, if i'd been kidnapped by maniacs with guns and the cheif maniac kept getting lost or couldn't drive properly or did that thing where he gave the good guy far to many chances to escape and seduce his female sidekick I might consider toning it down but apart from that, no.

[EternalOptimist]

Tell them they are useless *****. Preferably in front of everyone else, just in case anyone was under any illusions that they aren't. Then try and solve the problem, quite probably with the help of other people who know that the useless **** is a useless ****.

This is absolutely the worst advice I have ever heard. ever


can you not think of any situation where this is sh!te advice ????

[doodab]

It's a fact of life. sometimes you have to deal with people who add no value.
If you dont have the power to sideline them, you have to live with them.
If you dont have the power to bypass them, you have to eat their sh1t


sometimes you just have to accept that in order to get 1% of good stuff in, you have to put in 5% of stupidity

It's nice when you are in control
but if you are not, what do you do ? throw your toys out ?
or man it out

Tell them they are useless *****. Preferably in front of everyone else, just in case anyone was under any illusions that they aren't. Then try and solve the problem, quite probably with the help of other people who know that the useless **** is a useless ****.