Reply to: Unfillable Job of the Day

[Freamon]

Oh bugger, I can't do the confronts difficult circumstances in creative ways at the end

I saw a role advertised once where one of the criteria was (exact wording):

* Ability to react positively to constant setbacks / failures

Found out later that the guy who was currently doing the role had handed his notice in and was asked to write his own job description for a replacement. Obviously nobody checked through it before advertising it.

[Sysman]

Is this legal? Is there a point to it? It discriminates against British citizens who have lived overseas, including, I expect, ex-servicemen who've lived in Germany or ex government staff who've worked in Brussels at the EU or at Nato.

Are they really after Bobs then?

The question has to be asked.

[Sysman]

Hubby still does VMS support. They've still got some big customers - banks and utility companies. Not sure how much longer it'll keep him going though.

Best to retrain if he can.

* Experience in porting Fortran\VAX applications into a Microsoft environment using Charon-VAX

What a wonderful misunderstanding.

Basically eff-all to do, because Charon VAX is a hardware emulator and you can run the exact replica of a VMS system in it.

[doodab]

£125 per day most probly

This will be paying at least £250 and you'll be allowed to wear sandals in the office.

[oscarose]

Hey Gentile, you're looking rather foxy in your new avatar.

[mudskipper]

VAX/VMS - That's a blast from the past, about 20 years past.

They may as well have put "My client urgently seeks a Colossus specialist. Must be security cleared, and have worked in Bletchley Park for at least 5 years"

Hubby still does VMS support. They've still got some big customers - banks and utility companies. Not sure how much longer it'll keep him going though.

[eek]

Agents like this make me laugh. It's bad enough when HR departments demonstrate such cluelessness, but agents' ability to make a living depends on not being this stupid. They might as well be advertising for an astronaut that's been into space a dozen times, plus at least one moonwalk.

There's one doing rounds just now up here that I've seen advertised with the exact same description by several agencies. It includes the telling phrase:

"Microsoft Common Language Runtimes (specifically WCF, MVVM)"

So, WCF (a .Net communications technology) and MVVM (a design pattern typically used in Silverlight and WPF applications) are apparently comparative examples of the same thing now?, and that thing is "Microsoft Common Language Runtimes". You couldn't make it up. Top Tip, chaps: you're paid to find qualified people, not to merely regurgitate misinformed bullshit that some HR jockey misheard at a meeting once.

The rate for that one has climbed £100 pd since the last time I saw it advertised. I suspect it'll climb another £100 before someone eventually decides it's worth their trouble cutting through the hyperbole to see if there's an actual role underneath all the misinformed BS in evidence.

I think that is £100 less than the rate you'd need to pay some local who could do that role and probably £200 less once you get someone willing to commute and do that job. And I doubt there is anyone local who could do it.

Strangely enough I look at that job and could do but I doubt there are many contractors who know Windows, Java, all that other rubbish and could legitimately put it on their CV. And if that rate began as £200 there is no way they'll willing accept the rate they need to pay for someone so you'd have to be mad to do it.

[Gentile]

Agents like this make me laugh. It's bad enough when HR departments demonstrate such cluelessness, but agents' ability to make a living depends on not being this stupid. They might as well be advertising for an astronaut that's been into space a dozen times, plus at least one moonwalk.

There's one doing rounds just now up here that I've seen advertised with the exact same description by several agencies. It includes the telling phrase:

"Microsoft Common Language Runtimes (specifically WCF, MVVM)"

So, WCF (a .Net communications technology) and MVVM (a design pattern typically used in Silverlight and WPF applications) are apparently comparative examples of the same thing now?, and that thing is "Microsoft Common Language Runtimes". You couldn't make it up. Top Tip, chaps: you're paid to find qualified people, not to merely regurgitate misinformed bullshit that some HR jockey misheard at a meeting once.

The rate for that one has climbed £100 pd since the last time I saw it advertised. I suspect it'll climb another £100 before someone eventually decides it's worth their trouble cutting through the hyperbole to see if there's an actual role underneath all the misinformed BS in evidence.

[Scoobos]

Is this legal? Is there a point to it? It discriminates against British citizens who have lived overseas, including, I expect, ex-servicemen who've lived in Germany or ex government staff who've worked in Brussels at the EU or at Nato.

It is legal, I've been stung with it, having had 18 months overseas on my last stint

[MyUserName]

Its the "CRB check" that's going to kill it

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to DodgyAgent again.

[DodgyAgent]

Its the "CRB check" that's going to kill it

[Support Monkey]

By Christ, how many contractors are there that fill this roles criteria...?

My client urgently seeks a VAX / VMS Specialist needed ASAP on a 3-6 months contract.

You will need to be MOD Security cleared, without it, you will not be considered.

Shirley thats wrong, i didn't think they were allowed to specify this anymore

[kingcook]

Oh bugger, I can't do the confronts difficult circumstances in creative ways at the end

[kingcook]

By Christ, how many contractors are there that fill this roles criteria...?

My client urgently seeks a VAX / VMS Specialist needed ASAP on a 3-6 months contract.

You will need to be MOD Security cleared, without it, you will not be considered.

MOD SC Requirements.

* 5 Years MOD SC work history

* References from previous MOD SC employer

* Proof of UK residency for five year

* CRB check no criminal convictions




Skill Requirements:


* Degree in Computer Science, Information Technology or other related technical field

* Experience working in a highly matrixed and remotely based organization

* Experience in porting Fortran\VAX applications into a Microsoft environment using Charon-VAX

* Ability to analyze application performance statistics to enhance performance

* Strong track record of understanding and interest in current and emerging technologies demonstrated through training, job experience and/or industry activities

* Strong team player - collaborates well with others to solve problems and actively incorporates input from various sources

* Demonstrated customer focus - evaluates decisions through the eyes of the customer; builds strong customer relationships and creates processes with customer viewpoint

* Strong analytical skills - strong problem solving skills, communicates in a clear and succinct manner and effectively evaluates information/data to make decisions; anticipates obstacles and develops plans to resolve

* Change oriented - actively generates process improvements; supports and drives change, and confronts difficult circumstances in creative ways

Damn!! I can do all that!! Giza job!!!!!

[ChrisPackit]

The only Vax specialist they will get for that kind of money will be operating one of these...