Reply to: The world according to Polly Toynbee

[d000hg]

Yes.

I think that's the one.

The one where beer is £6/pint.

Maybe that's a good thing too!

[EternalOptimist]

I stayed in Norway this year.
beer was £8 a pint in some places

I got chatting to a hotelier. He said business was bad and the recession had made it worse, foreigners were just not coming any more, even for the skiiing.
The only visitors were the Norge, who were so poor paying high prices that they couldnt afford to go abroad.
The public sector were on strike, because the country was awash with loot, they wanted there share.
The average wage was £40k and the teachers were going for £100k per year.

I got a letter last week. from Norway

On 6 july you drove on these 3 roads for x km, please pay your road toll of £6.38

the toll was quite cheap, but I will never go back to Norway

[OwlHoot]

According to your wife you might as well be !!

Hi Zoiderman

[Gloucsman]

Next you will telling me I am Gay

According to your wife you might as well be !!

[DodgyAgent]

Possibly....

Next you will telling me I am Gay

[Sysman]

Yes.

I think that's the one.

The one where beer is £6/pint.

I met some Norwegian lasses in the early 80s.

When I'd spend maybe 30 quid a week going out most nights, at home they'd blow 50 quid on a Friday night out, and that was it for the week.

My 30 quid included post-pub curries or takeaways too.

Later that year I met a Swedish lass, who said she was a registered alcoholic, which meant she could get cheap whisky from pharmacies.

They all went at the booze like kids in a sweet shop when they were in cheaper parts of the world.

[darmstadt]

Are you saying that I am a closet leftie?

Possibly....

Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just the Party Secretary) have any say in how the economy works. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.

"Stalinism is a state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste.... at the expense of the working class."

Socialists actually work best in democracies and do not advocate dictatorship. Many of them are actually under the misguided impression that socialism and capitalism are not incompatible. They believe that free choice and free market forces can actually exist side by side with a degree of distortion to the free market which will result in a successful mixed economy that delivers both a fair and equal society and the prosperity and freedom of capitalism.

[DodgyAgent]

The commenters on those newspaper blogs are a mixed bag. Some are tedious axe-grinding commonplace-spouting windbags with nothing worthwhile to say.

But occasionally a commenter hits the nail on the head, like this perfect summing up of Polly Toynbee and all she stands for

They left off the word "cretin"

[OwlHoot]

The commenters on those newspaper blogs are a mixed bag. Some are tedious axe-grinding commonplace-spouting windbags with nothing worthwhile to say.

But occasionally a commenter hits the nail on the head, like this perfect summing up of Polly Toynbee and all she stands for

Polly, like the entire body politic of the left, is just a shallow, delusion oriented, over simplistic, canker-brained, economically illiterate, fobbing tardy-gaited fustilarian pecsniffian cant, and all round unmuzzled motley-minded hedge-pig.

[DodgyAgent]

Not all bad then.

At least she is consistent, unlike most liberal lefties

[DodgyAgent]

Sounds more like a 'rightie' to me....surely right up your street! I know she's not but she is an idiot:



I've just finished visiting the Museum of Communism here and I don't know why but reading a lot of the information available in it strongly reminded me of DA!

Are you saying that I am a closet leftie?

[darmstadt]

This irritating leftie continually bangs on about Scandanavia being a model way of life that we should copy:

Let's give Polly Toynbee the Britain she wants – Telegraph Blogs

So, yes, we really should do as Polly asks. Let's make this a country she can be proud of. School vouchers and academic and vocational streaming. Privatised emergency services. Local, not national, taxation. Abolish the national minimum wage. Get rid of inheritance and gift taxes. Raise VAT, cut corporate and capital taxation. Finally, destroy the "national" part of the NHS.
I'll sign up to all of that. Thanks, Polly!

Sounds more like a 'rightie' to me....surely right up your street! I know she's not but she is an idiot:

Toynbee strongly supports state education, though partly educated two of her three children privately

In 2004 the Islamic Human Rights Commission awarded Toynbee the 'Most Islamophobic Media Personality' title in the Annual Islamophobia Awards

I've just finished visiting the Museum of Communism here and I don't know why but reading a lot of the information available in it strongly reminded me of DA!

[moggy]

That's not far from the truth* **.

Why didn't they go to Scandanavia instead of here, what with all that room?

*13 years plus 2 of the coalition
**A small proportion of that 10 million increase in population is births minus deaths

the country is about the size of spain too!

granted, a lot of it covered in snow, for much of the year

[Doggy Styles]

Britain has seen more than that arrive over the 15 years of New Labour.

That's not far from the truth* **.

Why didn't they go to Scandanavia instead of here, what with all that room?

*13 years plus 2 of the coalition
**A small proportion of that 10 million increase in population is births minus deaths

[NotAllThere]

Fewer when it's a countable quantity. Less otherwise.

Fewer people.
Less populated.

Fewer coins.
Less money.