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Originally posted by shaunbhoy View PostWell you know what they say......"You are what you eat!"
HTH
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SY, Sas is too busy amazing the salesman with his driving to reply right now.
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostFFS you really are the saddest mediocre fookwit who ever failed to grace the IT profession.
I used to eat incompetent gimps like you for breakfast.
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostWhat would they test?
Lets say you have 1000 accounts in a salesforce system and you want to change the rep from A to B.
Lets say you build the Account List Primary Key, The Rep Key Before, The Rep Key after.
Lets say you run it through the reporting instance to check
Lets say that as the BI Manager you confirm it's correct.
Lets say you then ask the Administrator to do it ( a simple data change).
Why would you then test it in Dev, then test it in Test where the data doesnt exist, so it's uncheckable, then ask the business to sign it off in dev, then ask the business to sign it off in test, before agreeing a go and no go & getting someone to run it in Production.
IT people get really confused between simple data updates & development change control processes. It's the equivalent of doing an update sql statement. You build the select from to check it, you run it once against a copy of the data, you take a copy of the rows you're planning to change(just in case), then check it worked. You don't have 200 million ******* people checking it, doing 'stories', writing BRDS, discussing it for weeks, test plans etc. It's Business Intelligence not ******* some major ******* deployment for NASA.
IT Developers don't have a ******* clue about data let alone some bint in a back office.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostI feel you pain dude!
Some people seem to think db's exist to give them something to obsess over not to provide a service to the damn business
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostNo, you don't have to hang around.
Just pop in and some cretinous gimp will pop up over the parapet in no time.
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Originally posted by Pondlife View PostMy reason for going is that I'm a contractor. It's their (the business') data and therefore they should sign off that it's correct, not someone who is an external supplier.
It's my data now.
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My reason for going is that I'm a contractor. It's their (the business') data and therefore they should sign off that it's correct, not someone who is an external supplier.
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostWhat would they test?
Lets say you have 1000 accounts in a salesforce system and you want to change the rep from A to B.
SNip etc etc etc
Half don't even know what it is. If a database went down every time someone looked at the ******* thing nothing would work.
Some people seem to think db's exist to give them something to obsess over not to provide a service to the damn business
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And while I'm
Do you know the other thing I ******* hate. Every contract I go to, some Administrator or some DBA gets all uppity the second you want a database connection so you can return run some simple reports using a BI tool, or christ you may want to start building a datawarehouse. The number of twats who think that connecting via an ODBC connection will lock the database and take the application down if you run a query truely beggars belief. Half don't even know what it is. If a database went down every time someone looked at the ******* thing nothing would work.
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Originally posted by bless 'em all View PostNo, I did that as well.
What happened to running this past the testers MF?
Lets say you have 1000 accounts in a salesforce system and you want to change the rep from A to B.
Lets say you build the Account List Primary Key, The Rep Key Before, The Rep Key after.
Lets say you run it through the reporting instance to check
Lets say that as the BI Manager you confirm it's correct.
Lets say you then ask the Administrator to do it ( a simple data change).
Why would you then test it in Dev, then test it in Test where the data doesnt exist, so it's uncheckable, then ask the business to sign it off in dev, then ask the business to sign it off in test, before agreeing a go and no go & getting someone to run it in Production.
IT people get really confused between simple data updates & development change control processes. It's the equivalent of doing an update sql statement. You build the select from to check it, you run it once against a copy of the data, you take a copy of the rows you're planning to change(just in case), then check it worked. You don't have 200 million ******* people checking it, doing 'stories', writing BRDS, discussing it for weeks, test plans etc. It's Business Intelligence not ******* some major ******* deployment for NASA.
IT Developers don't have a ******* clue about data let alone some bint in a back office.
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Originally posted by Pondlife View PostIs it just me that read this and went
What happened to running this past the testers MF?
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