Reply to: zero hours

[petergriffin]

I don't get it. Every hour paid through PAYE has to have NI. Doesn't it?

Yes but you have different rates:
HM Revenue & Customs: National Insurance Contributions

If you work 40 hours for £10 an hour but your employer declares 8 hours @6 pph and the rest is "extra", that's where the avoidance is.

In most case this goes unnoticed as it is also in the interest of the slave worker to pay less NI but when it all comes out when they check their payslip and they receive no or little holiday pay.

There are tens of cases like these on the consumer forums.

[Platypus]

This is tax avoidance (and not even a smart one) for the companies. They pay tax, NI and holiday pay for the first 8 hours (that is, nothing) then declare the remaining hours as "extra".

I don't get it. Every hour paid through PAYE has to have NI. Doesn't it?

[petergriffin]

This is tax avoidance (and not even a smart one) for the companies. They pay tax, NI and holiday pay for the first 8 hours (that is, nothing) then declare the remaining hours as "extra".

[SueEllen]

Health warning over army of NHS 'temps' - Home News - UK - The Independent

Makes a list of places not work near in the UK.

[speling bee]

Health warning over army of NHS 'temps' - Home News - UK - The Independent

[SueEllen]

Nice


BBC News - Do zero hours contracts create real jobs?

seems its manufacturing and fast food.

shafting the poor

A certain large department store was offering those contracts in the 90s.

Strangely they had a hard time finding anyone to take them up.........

[zeitghost]

shafting the poor

Yup.

It was ever thus.

It's a looooooong time since "You've never had it so good".

[vetran]

Nice


BBC News - Do zero hours contracts create real jobs?

seems its manufacturing and fast food.

shafting the poor

[zeitghost]

So slavery terms and conditions were better?

In a way.

Depends on your owner of course.

But it was noted that mine owners were more concerned about pit ponies (property) than miners (not property).

[SueEllen]

Links?

Google is your friend.

[MarillionFan]

Yup.

It's a neat trick.

They don't have to give you any hours (or money), but you have to be available at a moment's notice.

Links?

[alreadypacked]

Nah.

You're free enough to starve.

So slavery terms and conditions were better?

[zeitghost]

Wasn't that called slavery?

Nah.

You're free enough to starve.

[alreadypacked]

Yup.

It's a neat trick.

They don't have to give you any hours (or money), but you have to be available at a moment's notice.

Wasn't that called slavery?

[zeitghost]

Yup.

It's a neat trick.

They don't have to give you any hours (or money), but you have to be available at a moment's notice.