Reply to: How is this proportional and fair?

[speling bee]

d000hg these guys wont even know that Muslim's faught alongside us, I assume , perhaps wrongly, that it is aimed at the white western population.

My motivation is driven by my ex military background not racial predujice.

I seriously can't understand how this is tolerated; and how people don't see just how hateful and hurtful it is.

4 months compared to 50 quid is just not acceptable for me, and any disrespect to dead soilders needs to be stamped down on much harder than this.

I just think it sends totally the wrong message and fuels the racists.

It is hateful and hurtful and people shouldn't do it.

But would it be acceptable if the dead soldiers were war criminals? Various Japanese nationalists get in trouble for honouring sites which include mention of category 1 war criminals.

The difficulty is that different people will have different views of what is a war crime. Some people will think that all war is crime and all soldiers are murderers. Others will think that different soldiers are war criminals in different circumstances. Is it that you wish to legislate against? Or do you wish to legislate against people protesting in this way, whether or not they believe that soldiers are war criminals? In which case would you like to see similar penalties against protestors who burn swastikas at a fascist commemoration of SS soldiers?

I'm afraid it is hard to legislate against all unpleasantness. I am legally allowed to ignore my neighbour when he says hello, sleep with your wife, laugh at a puppy that has been run over and that is dying in the street.

Some people are just mean, I'm afraid.

[speling bee]

Thats ******* brillant!! Made me laugh out loud in a dead office

It's only dead because Clare crashed a plane into it.

[northernladuk]

Hang on, I have just noted the InTouch Logo.....

Thats ******* brillant!! Made me laugh out loud in a dead office

[speling bee]

Umm, I suggested the muslim extremists stick one finger in the air; where did I say that anyone sticking their finger in the air is a muslim extremist?

Oh sorry, forgot it's CUK general. Anyway, he's sticking his thumb in the air too.

So he could be a Muslim extremist?

An interesting historical perspective is that Rod Hull was a Muslim extremist and Emu was his cover for having a finger in the air.

[northernladuk]

d000hg these guys wont even know that Muslim's faught alongside us, I assume , perhaps wrongly, that it is aimed at the white western population.

My motivation is driven by my ex military background not racial predujice.

I seriously can't understand how this is tolerated; and how people don't see just how hateful and hurtful it is.

4 months compared to 50 quid is just not acceptable for me, and any disrespect to dead soilders needs to be stamped down on much harder than this.

I just think it sends totally the wrong message and fuels the racists.

This reply is flawed on quite a few levels which is why you won't understand that it is about point of law, not hot headed anger.

[SimonMac]

Umm, I suggested the muslim extremists stick one finger in the air; where did I say that anyone sticking their finger in the air is a muslim extremist?

Oh sorry, forgot it's CUK general.

Hang on, I have just noted the InTouch Logo.....

[Mich the Tester]

Umm, I suggested the muslim extremists stick one finger in the air; where did I say that anyone sticking their finger in the air is a muslim extremist?

Oh sorry, forgot it's CUK general. Anyway, he's sticking his thumb in the air too.

[speling bee]

I suppose we could compare sentences received for "Pissing on the cenotaph" and "Burning Poppies"...

Just saying, like...

Interesting article about Charlie Gilmour's 18 month sentence and comparisons to Pussy Riot.

The west's hypocrisy over Pussy Riot is breathtaking | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian

[d000hg]

One race shouting for another race to "burn in hell" and setting fire to a symbol of the Allied sacrifice to combat race hate and totalitarianism is racial hatred in my book.

The Allies aren't one race. in WW1/2 it was (broadly) the same race on both sides. Neither WW1 or WW2 were [primarily] about 'combating race hate'.

[SimonMac]

Anyway, why do extremist muslims always seem to have one finger pointing in the air?

Should someone inform customs and immigration? 'Nothing wrong with muslims, chaps, it's just the ones who point their finger into the sky; they can be a bit awkward'.

[Mich the Tester]

I suppose we could compare sentences received for "Pissing on the cenotaph" and "Burning Poppies"...

Just saying, like...

People who do that kind of thing have recieved the ultimate sentence already; their own sad, miserable, failed existence. Fine them if it's really necessary, but most of all ridicule them, point fingers at them and laugh in their faces.

[EternalOptimist]

Why is burning poppies racist? It could be deemed xenophobic at best.

Its a racist attack, if the victim perceives it as such. apparently

[Scoobos]

d000hg these guys wont even know that Muslim's faught alongside us, I assume , perhaps wrongly, that it is aimed at the white western population.

My motivation is driven by my ex military background not racial predujice.

I seriously can't understand how this is tolerated; and how people don't see just how hateful and hurtful it is.

4 months compared to 50 quid is just not acceptable for me, and any disrespect to dead soilders needs to be stamped down on much harder than this.

I just think it sends totally the wrong message and fuels the racists.

[d000hg]

Hmm, I agree with the sentiment NLUK but I don't see how burning poppies isn't criminal damage and inciting racial hatred either. But now I'm repeating myself like a true raving maniac.

Why is burning poppies racist? It could be deemed xenophobic at best.

[northernladuk]

One race shouting for another race to "burn in hell" and setting fire to a symbol of the Allied sacrifice to combat race hate and totalitarianism is racial hatred in my book.

Thank god we have a strict legal system to fall back on rather than this happy clapping bollox.