Reply to: The Telegraph is 3.5 years too late

[Freamon]

You can gadgets that allow you to receive the traffic data on them without a subscription, even Tom Tom used to sell them

Where might one find such a thing?

[doodab]

I love maps, I often buy them as souveniers.

Satnav is useful sometimes if you are going somewhere you've never been and are in a hurry, i've had it in hire cars but i don't have one myself. I prefer to plan a route beforehand, or just get into the car and drive. After a bit of practice I can find my way across most of western europe unaided e.g. london to munich or zurich, with no need for a map.

I find walking around getting lost a good way to discover a city as well, though i do tend to have google or a touristy map as a backup.

[NickFitz]

Lots if satnav stories about people ending up at the wrong end of the country after trusting them blindly....

Maps can be just as good for that. Back in the Eighties a friend of mine was in Hinckley, Leicestershire, when a van driver stopped and asked "Do you know where the power station is?"

"What, Hinkley Point power station?"

*checks delivery note* "Yeah."

"Yes, I know where that is; it's in Somerset."

Cue much effing and blinding from the van driver who'd picked the wrong Hinckley in the index of his road atlas

[Diver]

Do you have something against google or summat?

Ska a Silly Question

[xoggoth]

I already get free traffic data on my Tom Tom

Pah! I was getting live traffic on my little O2 gadget about 10 years ago. AND it only cost me £2.40 in The Red Cross charity shop.

[BrilloPad]

Yet another example of Google's predatory monopolistic behavior - giving this stuff away for free to bankrupt companies who build up the tech over years and subsidise it with ever increasing ad rates.

Do you have something against google or summat?

[AtW]

Yet another example of Google's predatory monopolistic behavior - giving this stuff away for free to bankrupt companies who build up the tech over years and subsidise it with ever increasing ad rates.

[russell]

I have moved to the iPhone from Android what's the best Sat Nav app? TomTom?

[BrilloPad]

I use maps, much nicer, and I think SatNav erodes spatial awareness, geographically speaking.

I know of a TA officer who used Happy Eater Maps to guide a group to a destination in Denmark as he'd left all their maps behind.

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I like SatNav - but I dont trust it. e.g. when visiting Churchy the other week it made the journey dead easy. I intend to make sure my kids can read maps though. And you are totally right about spatial awareness - in the same way that calculators can make one a bit fick.

Lots if satnav stories about people ending up at the wrong end of the country after trusting them blindly....

[BrilloPad]

Google is 13 years too late. Audi and Daimler Chrysler paid Nokia to develop a real-time telematics system in 1999.

Then google would be 9 years too late as NF posted in 2008.

Not all of us can afford an R8 you know. How are you getting on with swapping it for a people carrier.....

[Zoiderman]

I use maps, much nicer, and I think SatNav erodes spatial awareness, geographically speaking.

I know of a TA officer who used Happy Eater Maps to guide a group to a destination in Denmark as he'd left all their maps behind.

More information

[TimberWolf]

Can't say for traffic data, but there are free Android apps that store maps for off-line use, which you could navigate with assuming you have a GPS chip in your phone.

[NickFitz]

Except millions of people read the Telegraph whereas 3 or 4 and 100 sockies read Nicks (or anyones) posts.

Furthermore, Telegraph readers don't care so long as the charabancs bringing day trippers to tour their country house don't startle the muntjacs

[Diver]

I already get free traffic data on my Tom Tom, which doesn't rely on having a constant signal unlike when I've had to fall back to using google maps on my android phone

For maps to be useful on a phone, it needs to store the map data on the phone, not cache small amounts of it and keep downloading the rest

WHS

+ mine sounds like Homer Simpson (Annoying must change ASAP)

Good backup though if the Satnav goes down.

[russell]

http://forums.contractoruk.com/light...tml#post639032

Google threatens satnav with real-time traffic data - Telegraph

Folow NickFitz - he is THE man

Except millions of people read the Telegraph whereas 3 or 4 and 100 sockies read Nicks (or anyones) posts.