Reply to: Beeb lose Grand National

[Basil Fawlty]

Yes they do. If you don't want Sky, don't pay for it. If you don't want to watch terrestrial TV, don't get a TV license.... you can still watch catchup TV on iPlayer (and other catchup websites I suppose).

But what if you want Sky and not the beeb ? Good excuse to go the pub I suppose...

[lilelvis2000]

This is my point... Surely the loss of revenue is more than the output? Add to that the loss of the F1 income from selling it around the world, and the lack of any football whatsoever...

All lost revenue.

I didn't think that Bernie allowed that. But hey I suppose it is possible.

Mind you I get annoyed when people talk about just how much money BBC makes from selling DVD's, books and programmes to us and the world. If they make so much from that, then scrap the licence fee altogether.

[d000hg]

That's exactly my point - if you don't want Sky you don't pay for it, but people don't have that choice with the good ol' beeb.

Yes they do. If you don't want Sky, don't pay for it. If you don't want to watch terrestrial TV, don't get a TV license.... you can still watch catchup TV on iPlayer (and other catchup websites I suppose).

[cojak]

That's exactly my point - if you don't want Sky you don't pay for it, but people don't have that choice with the good ol' beeb.

Ah, I see now. Well since I use their Internet services extensively I guess that's where a lot of the money goes and personally I don't have a problem with that.

[Bagpuss]

IMHO this could be a big loss to the gambling industry. It's very much a mug punters race, where people who don't normally gamble have a once yearly punt. Remove it from terrestial and I can see many of them forgetting to bother.

[scooby]

"In addition to worldwide news access and online reports, BBC Worldwide, the commercial arm of the BBC, distributes footage of the John Smith’s Grand National to 140 countries worldwide. This makes the great race very much a global event, enjoyed by millions of viewers around the world. The estimated worldwide audience for the John Smith’s Grand National is 600 million."

This is my point... Surely the loss of revenue is more than the output? Add to that the loss of the F1 income from selling it around the world, and the lack of any football whatsoever...

All lost revenue.

[Old Greg]

Its great that such a farce of a "race" has now gone elsewhere. I'm sure the BBC can fit in a good movie in its place and get higher ratings than a bunch of horses falling over.

They could get some Z list celebs to compete with each other in pushing horses over for a tenth of the price.

[Basil Fawlty]

Its great that such a farce of a "race" has now gone elsewhere. I'm sure the BBC can fit in a good movie in its place and get higher ratings than a bunch of horses falling over.

"In 2011, the Grand National achieved a domestic viewing audience of 8.8 million viwers, representing a 35.8 per cent share of the available television audience at the time."

And

"In addition to worldwide news access and online reports, BBC Worldwide, the commercial arm of the BBC, distributes footage of the John Smith’s Grand National to 140 countries worldwide. This makes the great race very much a global event, enjoyed by millions of viewers around the world. The estimated worldwide audience for the John Smith’s Grand National is 600 million."

[lilelvis2000]

Its great that such a farce of a "race" has now gone elsewhere. I'm sure the BBC can fit in a good movie in its place and get higher ratings than a bunch of horses falling over.

[Basil Fawlty]

Which bit of 'I'm not prepared to pay' do you not understand?

I can get everything I want either through Freeview or the odd DVD.

Which is considerably cheaper than Sky.

That's exactly my point - if you don't want Sky you don't pay for it, but people don't have that choice with the good ol' beeb.

[gingerjedi]

I doubt it, they are not willing to spend money on sport, hence why they have lost nearly everything in the last 5 yrs

I thought the Beebs 6 year license fee freeze and cost cutting program was common knowledge?

It's now in the 3rd year yet you sound surprised??

[cojak]

Which bit of 'I'm not prepared to pay' do you not understand?

I can get everything I want either through Freeview or the odd DVD.

Which is considerably cheaper than Sky.

[DodgyAgent]

Where is license fee going?

Keeping 5000 people employed in HR

[Basil Fawlty]

Well I'm not prepared to pay more for Sky. I watch Freeview and listen on the radio if I want live sports.

At least you have the choice with Sky though....

[cojak]

Well I'm not prepared to pay more for Sky. I watch Freeview and listen on the radio if I want live sports.