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Previously on "David Cameron: The Verdict"
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You seem to be full of anger. What's wrong - thought you already made your money so you did not give a tulip about taxes?Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostThe Lib Dims have a simple tax policy. Anyone earning over average income pays 100% tax. They are gormless communists. Shootings too good for them. God help us if they ever come to real power.
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The Lib Dims have a simple tax policy. Anyone earning over average income pays 100% tax. They are gormless communists. Shootings too good for them. God help us if they ever come to real power.Originally posted by doodab View PostThat I think is back to front. The lib dems have some creative ideas for reforming the tax system and if elected would probably try and do some fairly radical stuff, if anything it's the Tories holding them back IMO.
Having said that, holding them back might be a good thing...
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+1Originally posted by Robinho View PostIf the Lib Dems had their way rich people would be paying for everything, well, no they wouldn't be because they'd all piss of to the Cayman Islands.
What we need now is less progressive taxation, looser employment laws and a lower minimum wage. The LDs certainly won't apply these.
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If the Lib Dems had their way rich people would be paying for everything, well, no they wouldn't be because they'd all piss of to the Cayman Islands.Originally posted by doodab View PostThat I think is back to front. The lib dems have some creative ideas for reforming the tax system and if elected would probably try and do some fairly radical stuff, if anything it's the Tories holding them back IMO.
What we need now is less progressive taxation, looser employment laws and a lower minimum wage. The LDs certainly won't apply these.
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That I think is back to front. The lib dems have some creative ideas for reforming the tax system and if elected would probably try and do some fairly radical stuff, if anything it's the Tories holding them back IMO.Originally posted by Alf W View PostI think we should have another General Election so we can give one party a decent mandate without having the Lib Dems dragging us back.
Having said that, holding them back might be a good thing...
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Keynesian economics is dead. Get with the times.




at quoting the Labour Manifesto for ideas too.
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Youll find some good ideas in here - http://www2.labour.org.uk/uploads/Th...festo-2010.pdf
The point is I don't see Cameron et al doing anything positive. We're the only G20 nation pursuing this ridiculous notion that we can fix our economy by doing nothing but making politically motivated cuts to stuff the Tories don't like.
I think we should have another General Election so we can give one party a decent mandate without having the Lib Dems dragging us back. The Tories should get rid of Cameron and his fag. The Labour party should put forward the person they really want to lead them forwards (and not that Interim stooge Millibean) and let's just get on with it.
Ha! A drink, I think.
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Quite right.
All we need the gov for is Schools, Roads, NHS, Justice/Police/Fire and Defence, the rest can do one.
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Maggie had the right idea. Cull everything that was not efficient and let everything grow from there.Originally posted by Robinho View PostA chimp should also be able to understand that the tax coming in by spending simply won't be more than the money we're saving by cutting.
The problem is we have a sovereign debt issue and unless we get to grips with that it will spiral out of control.
The coalition should be removing every bit of red tape and barrier to enterprise whilst cutting the inefficiencies within the public sector.
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A chimp should also be able to understand that the tax coming in by spending simply won't be more than the money we're saving by cutting.Originally posted by Alf W View PostSimple fact. If you keep cutting you make people unemployed which means more benefits to pay out, less tax coming in, less money circulating in the system. A chimp should be able to understand that.
The problem is we have a sovereign debt issue and unless we get to grips with that it will spiral out of control.
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What exactly should be done? whatever is done would involve borrowing more money. This would be fine if the recession was part of a normal cycle and the UK had built up a surplus.Originally posted by Alf W View PostThe economically illiterate are those who can't see that politically motivated spending cuts compounded with a failure to do anything imaginative to encourage growth is resulting in a shrinking economy and higher unemployment. Especially when the opposite approach was taken in the USA and it's working over there.
Public sector efficiency, however, is another matter.
If the UK increases that debt and then finds the Euro collapses bringing about another recession then the UK will be in an even worse situation.
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The economically illiterate are those who can't see that politically motivated spending cuts compounded with a failure to do anything imaginative to encourage growth is resulting in a shrinking economy and higher unemployment. Especially when the opposite approach was taken in the USA and it's working over there.
Public sector efficiency, however, is another matter.
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