Reply to: Infanticide should be Legal

[TiroFijo]

In Sasguru or Churchill's case , their mothers should have a lifetime option to repair the mistake

+1

[d000hg]

Killing an infant is murder, abortion is nothing like it at all.

How can you view in such black & white terms, especially when considering abortion at a viable or near-viable development stage?

An abortion is a loving, merciful, selfless act

In some cases it is done with the child in mind. In others, the mother doesn't want the hassle and then it is all to do with selfishness. Again, not black & white. Even when it is done to show mercy, is it the mother's place to make that decision on the child's behalf?

[IR35 Avoider]

I remember this story about aborted babies being born alive. Terminations can be carried out after 24 weeks if the baby is handicapped or there's serious risk to mother's health.

In the case where one of twins is to be aborted, it is usually deliberately done just a few weeks before the due date, at an age (33 weeks?) where the baby would easily survive if prematurely born. This is in case the process inadvertently triggers early delivery of the healthy twin. Method is injection of potassium chloride into the heart to stop it beating. Mother then gets to carry around dead baby for a while - I think to some extent it gets reabsorbed, but my knowledge gets a bit hazy here.

[mudskipper]

I remember this story about aborted babies being born alive. Terminations can be carried out after 24 weeks if the baby is handicapped or there's serious risk to mother's health.

[wim121]

WHS

It sounds like trolling by pro-lifers.

Indeed, what an idiotic article. It is like saying that euthanasia and cold blooded murder is an identical crime.

Human life is sacred and I dare say the reason I hold that view is because I believe in a God.

That is your belief though. Killing an infant is murder, abortion is nothing like it at all.

An abortion is a loving, merciful, selfless act and women should be praised for such and act. It is putting your own feelings to one side (many women are heartbroken at having abortions and have severe emotional trauma afterwards) and thinking of what is truly best for the potential child. That is the selfless notion that should be applauded.

This is an inevitable consequence of the creeping secularism that seems to be pervading medical ethics these days.

Disagree entirely. I can prove to you how wrong this comment is if I regale you with the story of me, the OH and our conversations with medical experts in regards to conception.

They in no way try to push abortions, quite the opposite in fact. Ethics dictate they are supposed to inform only but we have found, they try to push irresponsible pregnancies.

It really wouldn't surprise me if, in a few years time, the elderly were being encouraged to undergo voluntary euthanasia, it really wouldn't.

I would agree with this. They already do though, they stick them in hospital with inadequate staffing and leave them in a corner to die, classy!

[Bunk]

The researchers are probably sniggering away to themselves at the cleverness and subtlety of their trolling campaign.

WHS

It sounds like trolling by pro-lifers.

[Churchill]

You've only been a permie a week, already your brain is disintegrating! Bail before it's too late!

But I like it here...

They feed me and let me out for walkies.

I even "catch the bus" to work...

It really is quite quaint.

[d000hg]

I'm not entirely clear on that point.

You've only been a permie a week, already your brain is disintegrating! Bail before it's too late!

[Churchill]

I did read what you posted. Then I replied to it. Then you replied to that.

Glad to clear that up.

I'm not entirely clear on that point.

[d000hg]

I did read what you posted. Then I replied to it. Then you replied to that.

Glad to clear that up.

[Churchill]

Not officially no, though they did lead to millions of cases through the 1 child policy.

Read what I posted. I was referring specifically to the 1 child policy.

If the baby had left the mother it was then permitted to live.

[d000hg]

Even the Chinese authorities won't terminate the baby if it has left the mothers body before they can get to it.

Not officially no, though they did lead to millions of cases through the 1 child policy.

[Churchill]

Even the Chinese authorities won't terminate the baby if it has left the mothers body before they can get to it.

[craig1]

The researchers are probably sniggering away to themselves at the cleverness and subtlety of their trolling campaign.

[d000hg]

In the UK it is 24 weeks - and some children survive at 20 weeks. Though those born under 26 weeks tend to have a shorter lifespan.

Children born at 28 weeks are 90% likely to survive and 32 weeks it is almost 100%.

I thought some EU countries allowed it up to 26/28 weeks, but I can't find a source now so maybe it's not the case.