Why are middle management so incompetent at holiday and diary management??

[NickFitz]

Or they could be there due to the peter principle

"You must spread..." etc. +1. I had that book out of the library before I was 16; my father suggested it when he saw me reading Stephen Potter. It's conditioned my perception of management ever since, because it's correct

[Freamon]

Just wondering after an unbelieveable experience of it.......

They are doing it deliberately just to annoy you as much as possible.

[AtW]

Tough sh!t.

Could be worse, I could be your manager.

It could have been even more worse - you could have been his father

[Freamon]

Thanks for linky. Interesting what it says about contractors. I am currently working alongside permies. who are 3 NHS grades lower than I would be if still a permie. The grading of the job is in practice (but not in theory) based on position in the management structure rather than skills required, so if the job needs doing properly it needs a contractor.

I think we can be fairly certain that the sentence on contractors was added by someone here.

[Paddy]

Why are middle management so incompetent at holiday and diary management

At one client co, a long term permie was upgraded to management. It ended up with three IT managers, the company rulles were that there must always be management on duty. This broke down at school half term when all managers took the same time off.

Unsurprisingly I have been with firms that run much more efficiently when they get rid of managers. Management in the UK, managers tend to be turned into administrative assistants rather than real managers.

[Old Greg]

Or they could be there due to the peter principle

Thanks for linky. Interesting what it says about contractors. I am currently working alongside permies. who are 3 NHS grades lower than I would be if still a permie. The grading of the job is in practice (but not in theory) based on position in the management structure rather than skills required, so if the job needs doing properly it needs a contractor.

[wobbegong]

Or they could be there due to the peter principle

I'd not heard of that. It makes a lot of sense.

[Spacecadet]

Because if there were even half way competent they'd be senior management. It's probably cheaper to leave them where they can do minimal harm to the business, than to make them redundant.

Or they could be there due to the peter principle

[Mich the Tester]

Middle managers, sorry, muddle managers aren't there to manage anything; they are there to give you the blame when they fail to manage things.

Learn it, accept it and send an invoice. Oh sorry, forgot you're permie there.

[NotAllThere]

It's not that their incompetent with holidays and diaries, it's just that as such things are the only thing that have any control over, they use their power to make their minions' lives miserable.

[wobbegong]

Why are middle management so incompetent at holiday and diary management??

Just wondering after an unbelieveable experience of it.......

Because if there were even half way competent they'd be senior management. It's probably cheaper to leave them where they can do minimal harm to the business, than to make them redundant.

[Churchill]

Tough sh!t.

Could be worse, I could be your manager.

[Wilmslow]

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