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Previously on "Project running late - offer to work weekend cos I'm a star!"

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    Of course they want you to solve their problems for them. They can't admit its their screw up so the only option is to trick you into working more hours.

    Oh they also probably believe their screwed up project will become obvious to everyone if the invoices increase in size so there is no way they will agree to paying you for the extra hours.
    There's definitely some sort of game going on because I seem to deal with multiple PMs all who seem to think their little bit is critical.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Client (or at least PM) is trying a new approach now....

    Apparently, even though I've offered to work at the weekend IF THEY ARRANGE IT, they still cant be arsed. But, it seems that, its now my fault even though I'm expected to do about 10 things at the same time.

    I'm beginning to get the feeling that client is trying to hint that they want 12 hour days out of me (i.e. for **** all) to catch up on their piss poor project plan but aint willing to cough up a few quid extra for me to do weekends. ho hum....
    Of course they want you to solve their problems for them. They can't admit its their screw up so the only option is to trick you into working more hours.

    Oh they also probably believe their screwed up project will become obvious to everyone if the invoices increase in size so there is no way they will agree to paying you for the extra hours.

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  • psychocandy
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    Client (or at least PM) is trying a new approach now....

    Apparently, even though I've offered to work at the weekend IF THEY ARRANGE IT, they still cant be arsed. But, it seems that, its now my fault even though I'm expected to do about 10 things at the same time.

    I'm beginning to get the feeling that client is trying to hint that they want 12 hour days out of me (i.e. for **** all) to catch up on their piss poor project plan but aint willing to cough up a few quid extra for me to do weekends. ho hum....

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    It isn't overtime; it's weekend time. If that's an IR35 pointer then every self employed plumber is a disguised permie.
    You're right - I remembered it wrong

    The contract made reference to "Additional Rates" for hours worked outside the standard hours and "Call Out and Standby" rates.

    Qdos said
    Call out rates and standby rates are employee benefits. Should you agree any additional hours, please ensure they are charged at your normal hourly rate.
    but made no comment on the additional rates.

    The agent laughed when I mentioned it and said "it's amazing how many contractors want to be paid more for working on a weekend or working extra hours!"

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  • Mich the Tester
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    Qdos suggested on a contract review that being paid a different rate for overtime is what permies do, so was an IR35 pointer.

    I never offer anyway.
    It isn't overtime; it's weekend time. If that's an IR35 pointer then every self employed plumber is a disguised permie.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by RobertRice View Post
    oh no no no
    Not cool. Makes everyone else look bad then when we dont act like permies like they have!

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  • Mich the Tester
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Not helped by the fact that I heard rumour of another contractor here whos done a few free days at the weekends Makes them expect everyone to do that. LF !!!
    As J Clarkson would say, he should be taken outside and shot in front of his family.

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  • RobertRice
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    rumour of another contractor here whos done a few free days at the weekends
    oh no no no

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    Qdos suggested on a contract review that being paid a different rate for overtime is what permies do, so was an IR35 pointer.

    I never offer anyway.
    I suppose it is. Perhaps charge a call out fee as well then..... (After all if you called someone out to fix your central heating I guess you'd be looking at least at an extra charge and not just same cost as weekday!)

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    I hope you're billing 200% for that.
    Qdos suggested on a contract review that being paid a different rate for overtime is what permies do, so was an IR35 pointer.

    I never offer anyway.

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  • carlosLondon
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    Originally posted by doomage View Post
    Is there not some kind of law against contractors working for free particularly at weekends? We should form a union and then kick that idiot out.
    Let's form a union and strike!

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  • doomage
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    I'll do it for standard day rate in the interests of goodwill. Admitedly, it should be a bit of a premium I reckon but there's not a chance in hell that client will pay that.

    It seems I'm always the one who looks like I'm being awkward twat mentioning sorting it out in advance etc.

    Not helped by the fact that I heard rumour of another contractor here whos done a few free days at the weekends Makes them expect everyone to do that. LF !!!
    Is there not some kind of law against contractors working for free particularly at weekends? We should form a union and then kick that idiot out.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    I hope you're billing 200% for that.
    I'll do it for standard day rate in the interests of goodwill. Admitedly, it should be a bit of a premium I reckon but there's not a chance in hell that client will pay that.

    It seems I'm always the one who looks like I'm being awkward twat mentioning sorting it out in advance etc.

    Not helped by the fact that I heard rumour of another contractor here whos done a few free days at the weekends Makes them expect everyone to do that. LF !!!

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  • Mich the Tester
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    I hope you're billing 200% for that.

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  • Project running late - offer to work weekend cos I'm a star!

    Project running seriously late. Urgent something gets sorted by monday.

    Various factors as to why its late ranging from over optimistic schedules, iffy design, late delivery of hardware, lack of resource etc.

    It never ceases to amaze though how often this happens. Offered to come in Sunday if its helpful, AS LONG AS someone gets authorisation for me to do so (i.e. I get to bill for it !!!) Everything goes strangely quiet then.... Oh well ClientCo you cant be that bothered about it then.

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