Reply to: UK riots stats.

[xoggoth]

Haringey - area's population under 40 is 62% white, 17% black??? Must be a different Haringey to the one I went to about 2 years back. Or they got the numbers the wrong way round.

Update: No hang on, that was Hackney. Confusing bloody names.

[Wodewick]

And what would that say about 'right winged' people?

They fly in circles??

[Mich the Tester]

It must stick in the craw of leftie apologists these stats.

1/3 in benefits
76% with a previous conviction
26% previously jailed
46% black
20% in gangs

Very 'representitive' of the population as the lefties kept saying. 'Oh it's not just one group' blah blah

Personally I thought the % benefits would be higher and the conviction bit lower.

What is 'lefty' about wanting statistics about the ethnic background of rioters to be represented in an unbiased fashion?

And what would that say about 'right winged' people?

[Sockpuppet]

Have I got my sums right:

If just over half were under 21 and 1 in 8 were on incapacity or disability benefits does that mean that 1 in 4 of the over 21 were on incapacity or disability benefits ?
As it would be unsuall for an under 21 to be on incapacity or disability benefits

No. If 1/8 of them are on incapacity and half are under 21 then 1/8 of those under 21 could be seen as on incapacity.

Assuming an even spread of incapacity benefit claimants.

[Churchill]

A lot of them were born abroad too according to the Daily Express.

**** me there's an echo in the bat-cave!

[TimberWolf]

It must stick in the craw of leftie apologists these stats.

1/3 in benefits
76% with a previous conviction
26% previously jailed
46% black
20% in gangs

Very 'representitive' of the population as the lefties kept saying. 'Oh it's not just one group' blah blah

Personally I thought the % benefits would be higher and the conviction bit lower.

A lot of them were born abroad too according to the Daily Express.

[MarillionFan]

When they list things every other one is bold, look at the table above it too

It must stick in the craw of leftie apologists these stats.

1/3 in benefits
76% with a previous conviction
26% previously jailed
46% black
20% in gangs

Very 'representitive' of the population as the lefties kept saying. 'Oh it's not just one group' blah blah

Personally I thought the % benefits would be higher and the conviction bit lower.

[mudskipper]

Have I got my sums right:

If just over half were under 21 and 1 in 8 were on incapacity or disability benefits does that mean that 1 in 4 of the over 21 were on incapacity or disability benefits ?
As it would be unsuall for an under 21 to be on incapacity or disability benefits




UK riots: One in eight defendants were on incapacity or disability benefits | Mail Online

Also from the Wail - they were probably all drug addicts, alcoholics or obese.

Scandal of the 80,000 alcohol and drug addicts on sickness benefits | Mail Online

[mudskipper]

We made this!

Excellent!

[SimonMac]

Here's a particularly spiteful piece of Wail reporting;



Breakdown by ethnicity
46% Black or mixed black background
42% White
7% Asian
5% 'Other'

I'm not arguing about the statistics or the validity of measuring ethnic background, but I find it quite striking that the Wail chose to print ' Black or Mixed Black background' and 'Asian' in bold print and white and other in normal print. Are they trying to emphasize one group of people's role above another? If not, why do they need the selective use of bold print?

When they list things every other one is bold, look at the table above it too

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Did it mention Princess Di?

We made this!

[Pondlife]

The front page of today's Daily Express (I think) says a lot of the rioters were born abroad.

Did it mention Princess Di?

[TimberWolf]

Always takes me ages to find the online version of the Express's hardcopy front page on-line. Should try to remember where I find in when I do eventually find it. Can't be arsed this time.

[Mich the Tester]

The front page of today's Daily Express (I think) says a lot of the rioters were born abroad.

Well it would, wouldn't it.

[TimberWolf]

The front page of today's Daily Express (I think) says a lot of the rioters were born abroad.