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[wim121]

Is this true?

Yes it is.

If you ever do fall for an email scam, the last thing you want is police involvement.

Recent case in the US, Appellee and v. Tamara Lynn Heid, "A federal grand jury returned a superseding indictment charging six defendants with conspiracy to launder money, a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1956(h)"

There was a case a while back involving someone in UK government IIRC, who only became aware of money laundering after a while in the department but failed to follow "Suspicious Activity Reporting" which was seen as concealment of the crime.

Laws vary, dependant on the country, but most countries, including ours, dont need evidence of you committing a crime but just the intent to commit the crime, across many different areas of law.

[Clippy]

Is this true?

Sounds like he's barking up the wrong tree to me.


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[Cliphead]

Is this true?

You worried?

[Peoplesoft bloke]

She is still guilty of attempting to buy stolen goods and she did handle a working ipad before they gave her a "boxed" one. As I said before, the charge of handling stolen goods has a wide scope and is relevant here.

You can still be charged for it by the police, just as you can be charged for money laundering, even if you dont actually get any cash paid in to your account by a nigerian scammer, just the intent is enough for a formal charge to be made.



PS: Yes I did read the article before I even first posted.

Is this true?

[wim121]

Erm, you *did* read the article didn't you?

What she got when she opened the box was a lump of wood with an Apple logo painted on it, not an iPad....

She is still guilty of attempting to buy stolen goods and she did handle a working ipad before they gave her a "boxed" one. As I said before, the charge of handling stolen goods has a wide scope and is relevant here.

You can still be charged for it by the police, just as you can be charged for money laundering, even if you dont actually get any cash paid in to your account by a nigerian scammer, just the intent is enough for a formal charge to be made.



PS: Yes I did read the article before I even first posted.

[TestMangler]

At that price of course it's stolen.

What if I knock on your door, offer you a plasma 32" TV for £30 brand new. I cant possibly get them that cheap from the supplier, of course it's stolen.

It is surprisingly easy to get arrested for it as well. Victims trying to claim "they never knew it was stolen" often doesnt wash with the police, CPS or courts.

[DaveB]

At that price of course it's stolen.

What if I knock on your door, offer you a plasma 32" TV for £30 brand new. I cant possibly get them that cheap from the supplier, of course it's stolen.

It is surprisingly easy to get arrested for it as well. Victims trying to claim "they never knew it was stolen" often doesnt wash with the police, CPS or courts.

Erm, you *did* read the article didn't you?

What she got when she opened the box was a lump of wood with an Apple logo painted on it, not an iPad....

[wim121]

But it wasn't stolen so there is no way she could be charged with handling stolen property.

At that price of course it's stolen.

What if I knock on your door, offer you a plasma 32" TV for £30 brand new. I cant possibly get them that cheap from the supplier, of course it's stolen.

It is surprisingly easy to get arrested for it as well. Victims trying to claim "they never knew it was stolen" often doesnt wash with the police, CPS or courts.

[JamJarST]

of course it was stolen. it doesn't just grow on trees you know

[EternalOptimist]

But it wasn't stolen so there is no way she could be charged with handling stolen property.

of course it was stolen. it doesn't just grow on trees you know

[JamJarST]

This woman is even more stupid, publicising her stupidity as legally, she could be in a lot more trouble. It is common sense such a product at such a price, if it were supplied, is undoubtedly stolen and handling stolen goods is a serious felony.

But it wasn't stolen so there is no way she could be charged with handling stolen property.

[Cliphead]

You should sue the Daily Mail, they've nicked your pun.

Woman pays $180 for a black market iPad... and all she gets is a piece of wood | Mail Online

It has an Apple on it and some provenance so she might get her money back on eBay.

[thunderlizard]

I know loads of people who would happily plop a couple of hundred quid on a piece of wood, if it had the Apple logo on it and was shiny enough.

[MarillionFan]

My Mrs told me she bought a new iPencil in town the other day - anyone heard of it? Not sure what it does...


IGMC

Yeah, all the rage at the moment. I traded on the iPencil today and was making a fortune until I shorted the iEraser. It wiped out all of my iProfits.

Dimprawn

[administrator]

My Mrs told me she bought a new iPencil in town the other day - anyone heard of it? Not sure what it does...


IGMC