Does this mean she bought....

[JamJarST]

of course it was stolen. it doesn't just grow on trees you know

[wim121]

But it wasn't stolen so there is no way she could be charged with handling stolen property.

At that price of course it's stolen.

What if I knock on your door, offer you a plasma 32" TV for £30 brand new. I cant possibly get them that cheap from the supplier, of course it's stolen.

It is surprisingly easy to get arrested for it as well. Victims trying to claim "they never knew it was stolen" often doesnt wash with the police, CPS or courts.

[DaveB]

At that price of course it's stolen.

What if I knock on your door, offer you a plasma 32" TV for £30 brand new. I cant possibly get them that cheap from the supplier, of course it's stolen.

It is surprisingly easy to get arrested for it as well. Victims trying to claim "they never knew it was stolen" often doesnt wash with the police, CPS or courts.

Erm, you *did* read the article didn't you?

What she got when she opened the box was a lump of wood with an Apple logo painted on it, not an iPad....

[TestMangler]

At that price of course it's stolen.

What if I knock on your door, offer you a plasma 32" TV for £30 brand new. I cant possibly get them that cheap from the supplier, of course it's stolen.

It is surprisingly easy to get arrested for it as well. Victims trying to claim "they never knew it was stolen" often doesnt wash with the police, CPS or courts.

[wim121]

Erm, you *did* read the article didn't you?

What she got when she opened the box was a lump of wood with an Apple logo painted on it, not an iPad....

She is still guilty of attempting to buy stolen goods and she did handle a working ipad before they gave her a "boxed" one. As I said before, the charge of handling stolen goods has a wide scope and is relevant here.

You can still be charged for it by the police, just as you can be charged for money laundering, even if you dont actually get any cash paid in to your account by a nigerian scammer, just the intent is enough for a formal charge to be made.



PS: Yes I did read the article before I even first posted.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

She is still guilty of attempting to buy stolen goods and she did handle a working ipad before they gave her a "boxed" one. As I said before, the charge of handling stolen goods has a wide scope and is relevant here.

You can still be charged for it by the police, just as you can be charged for money laundering, even if you dont actually get any cash paid in to your account by a nigerian scammer, just the intent is enough for a formal charge to be made.



PS: Yes I did read the article before I even first posted.

Is this true?

[Cliphead]

Is this true?

You worried?

[Clippy]

Is this true?

Sounds like he's barking up the wrong tree to me.


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[wim121]

Is this true?

Yes it is.

If you ever do fall for an email scam, the last thing you want is police involvement.

Recent case in the US, Appellee and v. Tamara Lynn Heid, "A federal grand jury returned a superseding indictment charging six defendants with conspiracy to launder money, a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1956(h)"

There was a case a while back involving someone in UK government IIRC, who only became aware of money laundering after a while in the department but failed to follow "Suspicious Activity Reporting" which was seen as concealment of the crime.

Laws vary, dependant on the country, but most countries, including ours, dont need evidence of you committing a crime but just the intent to commit the crime, across many different areas of law.