Prevent global warming, burn more coal!

[PAH]

Shame on those people ... I think it's a shame good scientists are ridiculed and the only ones that are supported and funded are ones that back flawed theories .....

They're only ridiculed if they don't support the wider agenda.

Is there true freedom of speech on the internet? Seems everything is still open to censorship or legal challenge if you dare say something that people with more power than you don't agree with.

[BlasterBates]

Actually 7 out of the last 10 European winters were warmer than average. The snows last December seem to have been due to a shift in wind patterns, while it was cold here it was breaking warm temperature records in Canada. Amazing as it may seem, the IPCC are aware of the sun and its cycles, and it is a factor in the models. Unfortunately the cooling effect of a sun 'stuck' in a Maunder Minimum would be cancelled out by just 5 years worth of greenhouse gas emissions at current rates.

After all the additional energy trapped in the atmosphere by manmade GHGs is equivalent to detonating 1 million Hiroshima bombs every single day.

Gosh... have no fear we can rely on renewables to provide reliable power:

[BlasterBates]

Actually 7 out of the last 10 European winters were warmer than average. The snows last December seem to have been due to a shift in wind patterns, while it was cold here it was breaking warm temperature records in Canada. Amazing as it may seem, the IPCC are aware of the sun and its cycles, and it is a factor in the models. Unfortunately the cooling effect of a sun 'stuck' in a Maunder Minimum would be cancelled out by just 5 years worth of greenhouse gas emissions at current rates.

After all the additional energy trapped in the atmosphere by manmade GHGs is equivalent to detonating 1 million Hiroshima bombs every single day.

Gosh... have no fear, they're building modern renewable energy farms, problem sorted:

[pjclarke]

Actually 7 out of the last 10 European winters were warmer than average. The snows last December seem to have been due to a shift in wind patterns, while it was cold here it was breaking warm temperature records in Canada. Amazing as it may seem, the IPCC are aware of the sun and its cycles, and it is a factor in the models. Unfortunately the cooling effect of a sun 'stuck' in a Maunder Minimum would be cancelled out by just 5 years worth of greenhouse gas emissions at current rates.

After all the additional energy trapped in the atmosphere by manmade GHGs is equivalent to detonating 1 million Hiroshima bombs every single day.

[wim121]

Never said it wasn't. Doesn't stop people from cashing in on it.

Shame on those people ...

I think it's a shame good scientists are ridiculed and the only ones that are supported and funded are ones that back flawed theories .....

[DiscoStu]

Constants in life:

• The speed of light in a vacuum
• The Newtonian constant of gravitation
• The Planck constant
• The Faraday constant
• Another AGW thread on CUK

[Cliphead]

Do current models take into account the low solar activity which could account for the recent cold winters? The Maunder minimum (about 1650–1700) was a prolonged episode of low solar activity which coincided with more severe winters in the United Kingdom and continental Europe.

Can this be considered localised and transient or does it have a real effect on modelling and longer term predictions?

[pjclarke]

Temps up about 0.2C

pretty much as predicted by the models. But the trend is still too short to be very significant, you need to take an average of an ensemble of models over a longer period otherwise you get scribble:

http://www.realclimate.org/images/model10.jpg

[EternalOptimist]

temperatures have not changed much for the last 14 years. So whatever the reason, soot, sulpher aerosols, volcanoes, other natural variability or whatever
one thing is certain


this was not predicted by the models



the models have never hit the button. the IPCC is a fraud, climate science is a fraudulent science

[pjclarke]

The usual .....

WHAT! The short-term trend is all over the place?! You mean we still have weather? Well, I'll be ...

Do let know when this trend gets reversed.



Does CO2 always correlate with temperature (and if not, why not?)

[PAH]

Pahhhhh CO2/manmade climate change is the biggest con of the past century .......

Never said it wasn't. Doesn't stop people from cashing in on it.

[wim121]

Pahhhhh CO2/manmade climate change is the biggest con of the past century .......

[PAH]

Alternatively, shine a coloured light into the sky that has the effect of turning the blue sky to black. Just need a sun tracker and you can have a permanent sun shade.

BTW, All these ideas I'm posting are patent pending. Send me a cheque and I'll cut you in for when the patent snafflers come along to buy them up for silly inflated prices.

[BlasterBates]

hmm....

[Fred Bloggs]

Although burning the coal produced more warming carbon dioxide, it also put more tiny sulphate aerosol particles into the atmosphere which cool the planet by reflecting solar energy back into space.