Reply to: Ken Clarke

[lukemg]

Jeez - 'kin slow news day or what !!! What a complete and utter made up story deliberately finding a different meaning to that which was meant - a skill women are particularly adept at.
Disagree with the policy by all means and offer an alternative - the current one DOESNT work.
Country is fubar, we are lucky there aren't riots and we are worrying about stuff like this.

[russell]

arse?

Unfortunately I am burdened with a slim build, this along with my bone structure means I am constantly struggling with stalkers and envious people, its a curse.

[amcdonald]

arse?

feck! girls!

[sasguru]

I'm not, thought I was kandr or nob25? Ever thought the possibility that I am a real person with feelings, and a huge ****?

arse?

[BoredBloke]

Of course there are different degrees of rape - that's why sentencing varies.

And that is all Ken needed to say. It pi55es me off when you get people jumping up and down on a comment without actually listening to what was being said. There are degrees of rape - hence the different levels of sentencing. There isn't a sane person out there that could argue that rape is wrong, but when the law sees a 17 year old having sex with a 15 year old as being rape, how can that be in the same bracket as a serial violent rapist.

[Old Greg]

Ken Clarke is in a wrong job - he should have run Treasury instead of Osborne.

I didn't realise Clarke was in the Bullingdon Club.

[doodab]

I'm not, thought I was kandr or nob25? Ever thought the possibility that I am a real person with feelings, and a huge ****?

Awww.

I thought I had a feeling once, but it turned out I just needed a poo.

[NotAllThere]

Of course there are different degrees of rape - that's why sentencing varies. It would make sense if the law reflected this.

The purpose of the proposed law change, is to encourage guilty rapists to plead guilty earlier rather than at the last minute, saving a lot of money, and, more importantly, distress to the victims. (Of course, it's the money that's the really issue...).

Definitely it was a gaffe. An open goal to the shrieking harridans of the opposition.

[NickFitz]

I'm sure this one will run and run, but one thing that needs to be pointed out is that the term "statutory rape" is not part of British law (Scotland may vary, as they very sensibly try to keep their legal system separate from the one the English inflict on themselves and others).

Sexual activity with a person under the age of consent (i.e. under sixteen years of age) is known as "sexual activity with a child" and is a straightforward offence when the older party is aged eighteen or over (Sexual Offences Act 2003 section 9, and various provisions in other sections of that Act). It's still illegal for a seventeen year old to engage in sexual activity with a fifteen year old, but it isn't rape unless it really is rape, so wouldn't affect the statistics in the way Clarke claimed. Clarke's example of a seventeen year old boy and a fifteen year old girl having consensual sex was flawed in that it betrayed his ignorance of the law, for that would not lead to the seventeen year old boy being prosecuted on a charge of rape.

Well, virtually everything he said betrayed ignorance, but that's one of the many details he looked like an idiot over.

[AtW]

Ken Clarke is in a wrong job - he should have run Treasury instead of Osborne.

[MarillionFan]

I'm not, thought I was kandr or nob25? Ever thought the possibility that I am a real person with feelings, and a huge ****?

You could be real. Frankly I find your posts ok but when the masses move against you who am I to stand against it?...

[russell]

FTFY

Im no David Koresh!

[Spacecadet]

I'm not, thought I was kandr or nob25? Ever thought the possibility that I am a real person with feelings, and also a huge c**t?

FTFY

[TimberWolf]

Maybe Ken meant it's not rape if a woman dresses up as a cleaner wearing a short skirt with a fancy lace bow tie on the back.

[russell]

I'll be disappointed if Russell is Minestrone. It's not up to his usual high standard.

I'm not, thought I was kandr or nob25? Ever thought the possibility that I am a real person with feelings, and a huge ****?