Reply to: Vote no for AV

[NickFitz]

I see Cameron's been making a complete arse of himself over this

Doesn't he realise that, if he talks obvious crap over this one issue, it makes everything he says about any other issue in the future suspect?

Apparently his expensive education managed to skip the fable about the boy who cried "Wolf". Classics at Eton isn't what it used to be

[shaunbhoy]

It doesn't take a brain to see that's a bit odd.

Good thing in your case or that would be something else that goes so far over your head it leaves a vapour trail.

[d000hg]

A vote FOR AV is a vote to give the Liberal Democrats a permanent seat around the cabinet table

I have just voted NO

Voting for a system based on the outcome it will give isn't really what democracy is about.

that's just what the Liberals are doing

Yes undoubtedly but in this case the facts back their argument as SB mentions. It's theoretically possible in England that one party could get 40%+ of the votes but not one single seat, if all constituencies had a uniform voting distribution. It doesn't take a brain to see that's a bit odd.

[Ruprect]

Indeed. SB and Sas have shown their are idiots on both sides.

[d000hg]

A fool may say the sun is shining, but that doesn't make it dark outside.

Indeed. SB and Sas have shown their are idiots on both sides.

[NickFitz]

Stephen Fry and Eddie Izzard, the usual novelty hounds (and publicity hounds), have been campaigning for AV

That on its own should be enough to convince anyone in their right mind to vote no.

A fool may say the sun is shining, but that doesn't make it dark outside.

[OwlHoot]

Stephen Fry and Eddie Izzard, the usual novelty hounds (and publicity hounds), have been campaigning for AV

That on its own should be enough to convince anyone in their right mind to vote no.

[AtW]

Because NO ONE gets what they voted for, manifesto's become a waste of time as each party can claim that they had to compromise.

Manifesto's are a waste of time.

[Ruprect]

Oh bo11ocks. The missus has only gone and voted yes. Now I'm going to have to go out and cancel hers out

[Waldorf]

That would be the same Liberal Democrats that polled 23% of the national vote at the last General Election would it?
And it is unfair for them to have any real voice why exactly?


Well done. Did you manage that on your own or did Mummy tell you how to vote?

Because it all ends up as a fudge, a small minority watering down a potential strong government.

No my mum died 10 years ago, but she did teach me to make my own mind up.

[Waldorf]

What's the problem if they have a couple of seats? Current situation is disproportional because they held everyone to ransom so got far more than they should have achieved.

Because NO ONE gets what they voted for, manifesto's become a waste of time as each party can claim that they had to compromise.

[amcdonald]

No argument with that principle, however your reasoning seems to be to pick a voting system based on the outcome you want it to achieve. Which is bad in the field of politics just as much as it is in science.

But that's just what the Liberals are doing

[shaunbhoy]

A vote FOR AV is a vote to give the Liberal Democrats a permanent seat around the cabinet table

That would be the same Liberal Democrats that polled 23% of the national vote at the last General Election would it?
And it is unfair for them to have any real voice why exactly?

I have just voted NO

Well done. Did you manage that on your own or did Mummy tell you how to vote?

[AtW]

A vote FOR AV is a vote to give the Liberal Democrats a permanent seat

What's the problem if they have a couple of seats? Current situation is disproportional because they held everyone to ransom so got far more than they should have achieved.

[Waldorf]

A vote FOR AV is a vote to give the Liberal Democrats a permanent seat around the cabinet table

I have just voted NO