Reply to: We'd like to offer you a perm job

[Mich the Tester]

permanent job \per"ma*nent job \
1 An appointment to work with 3 months employment security (until the next quarterly figures) and approximately one third of the income of a contractor
2 A turd which won't flush away

[GreenLabel]

Every single ClientCo I've worked for has offered me a perm position. Every single one...

Same here. Without fail.

[suityou01]

Like a News of the World reporter I made my excuses and left.

Smacked him in the gob and stropped off out of it.

[MarillionFan]

agreed, I was offered a perm role recently and wouldn't have dreamed of a) taking it or b) being rude or disparaging about the offer

Like a News of the World reporter I made my excuses and left.

[2BIT]

Oh FFS, you contractors - it's a great complement saying that you are good enough to join glorious permiedom, if you are mad to decline it at least make it clear that you appreciate the offer.

agreed, I was offered a perm role recently and wouldn't have dreamed of a) taking it or b) being rude or disparaging about the offer

[Spacecadet]

If that's the way you think contracting works, billing full-time with no gaps, of course.

That is how it works! Since day 1 of my first contract almost 5 years ago I've had about 70 working days where I couldn't bill

[jmo21]

I love how the permie managers think they are doing you a big favour by offering the poor contractor a permie role.

I was thinking the exact same when I was reading the OP.

[MarillionFan]

I left my last perm role at end of 2009 and was on 89k basic with 15% bonus and shares.

I would now only go back into perm for a very senior management or directors role.

I have a prelimnary offer for a role starting at the begin of 2012 in the USA. I plan to contract all this year and if all works out i plan to head off stateside
next year.

Time will tell.

[Fred Bloggs]

If that's the way you think contracting works, billing full-time with no gaps, of course.

True, but it has for the last 8 years (7 contracts), I see little reason for things to change significantly. To be totally fair, where I am from, £65k is actually considered a mega salary.

[d000hg]

WHS, I had one this week "We're paying £65k a year, plus........ a car!". Bloggs replies - "I'm billing 220 days a year at £650 a day, do the sums." Harsh but true.

If that's the way you think contracting works, billing full-time with no gaps, of course.

[centurian]

Every single ClientCo I've worked for has offered me a perm position. Every single one...

[KentPhilip]

Why?

Because they are your client.
You should do all you can to butter up your client, because it raises the possibility of higher rates and better contracts.

On a related note, has anyone ever been offered a permie job that really did pay more than the contract equivalent? And did they turn it down because they preferred the freedom of contracting?

[Fred Bloggs]

Oh FFS, you contractors - it's a great complement saying that you are good enough to join glorious permiedom, if you are mad to decline it at least make it clear that you appreciate the offer.

Why?

[doodab]

WHS, I had one this week "We're paying £65k a year, plus........ a car!". Bloggs replies - "I'm billing 220 days a year at £650 a day, do the sums." Harsh but true.

When I left my one and only permie role for my first contract I had my bosses boss take me aside and say "do you mind if I ask what they are paying you cos we'd like to keep you and I can offer you quite a big raise"

So I told him and he said "That's more than I'm getting, so good luck!"

[MarillionFan]

Did you have to provide your own mop and bucket?

No it wasn't a job at Suityous house.