Reply to: WW2 atomic bombing of Hiroshima & Nagasaki

[shaunbhoy]

Are you saying that the scenario depicted in Threads is inaccurate? Let's hope we never find out!

Or at least if we do that they are faithful to the film and again choose Sheffield. Dropping a device like that now would deliver millions of pounds worth of improvements!

[EternalOptimist]

Ha, funny!

Are you saying that the scenario depicted in Threads is inaccurate? Let's hope we never find out!

we will never know, but look at it this way.

I reckon the chances of you personally getting hit by a nuke are one in a million.
If you do get hit by a nuke, the chances of your situation resembling that film are also one in a million

forget the film, its entertainment.

go and look at some porn and say 'that could be me there'

believe me - you have a lot more chance

[Bwana]

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[EternalOptimist]

Are you referring to Hiroshima & Nagazaki? Obviously what happened in those two places was terrible. At least there would presumably have been other parts of the country that were not destroyed by the two atom bombs, such that there may have been people who could provide some sort of help.

The scenario depicted in Threads was where the whole country was affected. Not only were all of the cities physically destroyed (so no infrastructure such as hospitals etc left), but there was the 'nuclear winter' effect, where the amount of dust & debris swept up by the blast was so great that it blocked out the sunlight for a year or more, which in turn meant that the harvest was very poor, so they couldn't even grow food. Nobody could come to help because the whole country was affected. It more or less turned the entire country into a toxic wasteland.

It's a powerful film and really makes you think. The hopelessness & despair of the characters was very well portrayed. Considering the scenario of a nuclear warhead exploding nearby, a friend of mine summed it up very well when he said "... you'd be better off running towards it rather than away...".

I dont mean to be rude or cruel. but I will anyway.


Anyone who gets their worldview from films, hollywood or otherwise, is a fool and deserves to be nuked, simply for the good of the species.

[Bwana]

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[minestrone]

They were killing more fire bombing Tokyo at the time

My view is they should have dropped it on a couple of rural areas, on an island, on something other than a city, if they had done that the Japs would have surrendered and saved many lives. AT that time the Japanese were little threat to anyone. We all know it was a Broadway show to prove who ruled the world.

[EternalOptimist]

For those who survived, life was bleak. I hope it never happens.

er.....
it did


twice

[Bwana]

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[Bwana]

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[NotAllThere]

If you get the chance, visit the "secret" nuclear bunker near Brentwood. Chilling.

[OwlHoot]

Is it accurate to suppose that the weapons we could produce these days are of such scale that a single bomb could effectively wipe out a small (geographically) nation like England, say from London to Birmingham?

I dare say a larger version of this could

[TykeMerc]

Have you seen HSBC's data centre? It looks like it will withstand a direct hit.

That was designed to take direct hits. When it was built the IRA were threatening Midland Bank with all sorts of nasty stuff so that place was built to take a serious mortar attack. 90%+ of it is underground and the bit on the surface is sloped and ridged to deflect blast. The few windows are quadruple glazed and armoured. The loading bay doors would do justice to some of the military bunkers I've been in.
I was a frequent visitor there 20 years ago and my contact was part of the commissioning team when it was built, we discussed it while a tape restore was running.

[d000hg]

Is it accurate to suppose that the weapons we could produce these days are of such scale that a single bomb could effectively wipe out a small (geographically) nation like England, say from London to Birmingham?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Just the neutrinos from a nuclear reaction can "activate" atomic particles, such as converting neutrons to protons, and thus transmute common elements like sodium and iron into radioactive isotopes.

Normally these are practically indetectable, and billions flit through our bodies every second almost without reacting. But problems start when the flux increases sufficiently ..

For example, if a supernova exploded within about 100 light years of the Solar System, we'd really be in the tulip for that reason among others

Well there is always Beltegeuse to keep you awake at night !

[OwlHoot]

Just the neutrinos from a nuclear reaction can "activate" atomic particles, such as converting neutrons to protons, and thus transmute common elements like sodium and iron into radioactive isotopes.

Normally these are practically indetectable, and billions flit through our bodies every second almost without reacting. But problems start when the flux increases sufficiently ..

For example, if a supernova exploded within about 100 light years of the Solar System, we'd really be in the tulip for that reason among others