Reply to: Just Weather

[EternalOptimist]

N10 - thermo nuclear strike from space.

That should hit something for sure

the game is over comrade

[AtW]

I did indeed get the quote from one of the blogs. It was one of dozens of quotes ref the 'scientific concensus' on CAGW being challenged recently.

pj, do you think there is a concensus ? do you think the science is 'settled' ? or are you still enquiring ?

As far as WHO are concerned, they suggest some figures (which is there perogative, being the business they are in) of 3.3 million dying each year due to climate, 150,000 of which would not have died if it were not for agw.

They speak of AGW as if it were a fact and thats not their job. Climate is a killer, regardless of AGW, according to their own assessment, so let them concentrate on that until the facts are settled. imo.

N10 - thermo nuclear strike from space.

That should hit something for sure

[EternalOptimist]

That's a misquote oh optimistic one. Here's the source

Whoever you got it from (Goddard?, Watts?) has mashed together sentences from two authors, Hans Jelbring is a climatologist but the other, William C. Gilbert, who provides most of the words, is not.

I did indeed get the quote from one of the blogs. It was one of dozens of quotes ref the 'scientific concensus' on CAGW being challenged recently.

pj, do you think there is a concensus ? do you think the science is 'settled' ? or are you still enquiring ?

As far as WHO are concerned, they suggest some figures (which is there perogative, being the business they are in) of 3.3 million dying each year due to climate, 150,000 of which would not have died if it were not for agw.

They speak of AGW as if it were a fact and thats not their job. Climate is a killer, regardless of AGW, according to their own assessment, so let them concentrate on that until the facts are settled. imo.

[Cliphead]

Conjecture and smoke and mirrors. Crap food and unhealthy lifestyles will kill more.

[pjclarke]

So what's the worst?

Well, the World Health Organisation estimates that

Measurement of health effects from climate change can only be very approximate. Nevertheless, a WHO quantitative assessment, taking into account only a subset of the possible health impacts, concluded that the effects of the climate change that has occurred since the mid-1970s may have caused over 150,000 deaths in 2000. It also concluded that these impacts are likely to increase in the future.

- the equivalent to one '9/11' every week. The Royal Society recently devoted an issue of their journal to what the world will look like after a rise of 4C, which they projected is what we face in the second half of the century. In a sentence

severe droughts across the world and millions of migrants seeking refuge as their food supplies collapse.

But that's more a midrange scenario than the worst case, which would involve powerful positive feedbacks, eg from methane clathrate or permafrost melt producing uncontrollable runaway warming ...

Cold out tonight ......

[Doggy Styles]

It's taters outside again tonight.

[Cliphead]

That's a misquote oh optimistic one. Here's the source

Whoever you got it from (Goddard?, Watts?) has mashed together sentences from two authors, Hans Jelbring is a climatologist but the other, William C. Gilbert, who provides most of the words, is not.

So what's the worst?

[pjclarke]

That's a misquote oh optimistic one. Here's the source

Whoever you got it from (Goddard?, Watts?) has mashed together sentences from two authors, Hans Jelbring is a climatologist but the other, William C. Gilbert, who provides most of the words, is not.

[EternalOptimist]

“I am ashamed of what climate science has become today,” The science “community is relying on an inadequate model to blame CO2 and innocent citizens for global warming in order to generate funding and to gain attention. If this is what 'science' has become today, I, as a scientist, am ashamed...Science is too important for our society to be misused in the way it has been done within the Climate Science Community.” Swedish Climatologist Dr. Hans Jelbring

[TimberWolf]

If they tax anyone it should be parents and politicians.

[SupremeSpod]

So what's the big deal? What's the worst that can happen? It was mentioned somewhere this week that sea levels aren't going to be rising.

Climate changes, always did always will.

What about the children?

[Cliphead]

So what's the big deal? What's the worst that can happen? It was mentioned somewhere this week that sea levels aren't going to be rising.

Climate changes, always did always will.

[BlasterBates]

....another "outlier"

[EternalOptimist]

If GW is such dodgy science, it's a bit of a shame sceptics resort to even worse science to try and discredit it. Just makes them look like the 'deniers' the media portrays them as.

hold on there. I read the piece that BB was quoting from, it was ironic, not pretending to be science.

A bit like

'Scientist who said our kids will not recognise snow prevented from picking his kids up from nursery because they are snowed in'

its a laugh, but no one is saying it proves anything

[d000hg]

If GW is such dodgy science, it's a bit of a shame sceptics resort to even worse science to try and discredit it. Just makes them look like the 'deniers' the media portrays them as.