Bob Crowe at it again - this time over 2 sacked workers..

[shaunbhoy]

Bob Crowe..........................David Cameron's Ace in the Hole.

[Doggy Styles]

I never thought I'd see a Scargill wannabe, but that's what Crow is.

Like I said, if the tories string him out until the next election, he'll cost Labour votes.

[Mich the Tester]

So, that begs the question....why don't they need drivers on the DLR?

I wouldn't want trains to be driven only by software. Especially not Bobware.

[manclarky]

The victoria line is automatic. I believe the Jubilee line is as well. The fact there is a driver there is for safety and backup reasons (in the same way that you have pilots on recent airbus planes).

So, that begs the question....why don't they need drivers on the DLR?

Surely, they just need to implement the same safety systems on the underground that they do on the DLR?? (Or am I being hopelessly naive?)

[Spacecadet]

To catch the bits of flying engine, you mean?

and respond to the 50+ on screen error messages. Took the pilots almost an hour to clear them... with better connectivity that job could be outsourced to a support office in Bangalore with much cheapness

[eek]

Why can't they have automated trains (like DLR) on the whole of the Underground?

The victoria line is automatic. I believe the Jubilee line is as well. The fact there is a driver there is for safety and backup reasons (in the same way that you have pilots on recent airbus planes).

[Mich the Tester]

There was an interview with him and LU on Radio 4 around the time of the last set of strikes and he sounded more like a bully boy hell bent on bringing as much damage to LU as possible and no way like a union guy representing workers for fair rights. I don't bother with this type of stuff normally but he got me in a rage just listening to him. I felt sorry for LU having to deal with this oik. I believe underground drivers are on around 40k a year which is due to nothing more than blackmail from the unions and nothing at all to do with the pressure/requirements of the job.

Nasty little power mad man he is.

I never thought I'd see a Scargill wannabe, but that's what Crow is.

[northernladuk]

There was an interview with him and LU on Radio 4 around the time of the last set of strikes and he sounded more like a bully boy hell bent on bringing as much damage to LU as possible and no way like a union guy representing workers for fair rights. I don't bother with this type of stuff normally but he got me in a rage just listening to him. I felt sorry for LU having to deal with this oik. I believe underground drivers are on around 40k a year which is due to nothing more than blackmail from the unions and nothing at all to do with the pressure/requirements of the job.

Nasty little power mad man he is.

[BdP]

It does appear that young Bob is seriously, seriously out of control.

If a union rep punched management it seems like he'd call his members out. There is no place for dinosaurs like Bob.

As I understand it, LU want to lose around 850 workers. LU have said this will be through natural wastage, and voluntary redundancy. They also let slip, that this 850 includes 250 'headcounted' posts - ie posts they have a budget for - have not been filled because - erm, they are not required.

The RMT, as part of this dispute, are insisting that LU fill the 250 posts budgeted. These are jobs that are not required by LU! Yet the RMT wants them filled.

Crowe is a classic!

[suityou01]

You'd have the added advantage that you could massively increase capacity by not having to rely on human reaction speed. Massive capital cost in age of austerity though I'd've thought.

I see us (UK) as that flash Harry down the pub, all opulence and swagger yet everyone knows everything is on HP and he hasn't got a pot.

[MarillionFan]

It does appear that young Bob is seriously, seriously out of control.

If a union rep punched management it seems like he'd call his members out. There is no place for dinosaurs like Bob.

[Ruprect]

Why can't they have automated trains (like DLR) on the whole of the Underground?

That way, when there's a strike called (by ticket office staff perhaps), the effect would be minimal - tubes could still run.
I accept there'd be Health & Safety red-tape for platforms if there's no-one manning the platforms / cameras / doors etc.

It would save a fortune in salary though - these drivers earn a fortune....£31k back in 2002: BBC NEWS | England | More strikes expected on Tube

You'd have the added advantage that you could massively increase capacity by not having to rely on human reaction speed. Massive capital cost in age of austerity though I'd've thought.

[manclarky]

Get the poles in!

Why can't they have automated trains (like DLR) on the whole of the Underground?

That way, when there's a strike called (by ticket office staff perhaps), the effect would be minimal - tubes could still run.
I accept there'd be Health & Safety red-tape for platforms if there's no-one manning the platforms / cameras / doors etc.

It would save a fortune in salary though - these drivers earn a fortune....£31k back in 2002: BBC NEWS | England | More strikes expected on Tube

[Doggy Styles]

If the Tories play their cards right, Bob Crow could become a big asset for them come the next election.

[Jog On]

Sminki

Hundreds of London Underground workers start voting this week on whether to call a strike over the treatment of two union members, threatening to bring the capital to a standstill during the festive season.

"We are calling on our members to deliver resounding 'yes' votes for action in both ballots as we send out a signal that London Underground will not be allowed to get away with picking off our activists," said RMT General Secretary Bob Crow in a statement.

Transport for London (TfL) said the Bakerloo line driver was dismissed for a breach of Tube safety rules, not for his trade union activities, and that the Northern Line driver was sacked for his "unacceptable conduct" towards London Underground colleagues rather than the "unproven allegations" RMT said were behind it.

Get the poles in!