Reply to: Airbus A380 damage report

[James Tiberius Kirk]

"The engines cannae take it Cap'n, they're gonna blow!".

Cry havoc and slip loose the dogs of war!

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[scooterscot]

They don't ground their entire fleet though, or leave holes in their aircarft.

Wanna bet! The sheet companies do to stop that kind of news getting out you'd would believe. Bet then it's up to the operators not the engine manufactures.

[kandr]

Studying Law.

ftfy.

That as well

[DaveB]

Everyones a smartass when theve had 10 mins to google.

Studying Law.

ftfy.

[kandr]

No such thing. Attempt implies intent and Manslaughter is the unplanned killing of another as a result of a related action. E.g. Someone gets punched, falls over, and dies as a result of their head hitting the kerb. It's manslaughter as there was no intent to kill, but the death was a direct result of the original punch. If the offender had attacked the victim with the intent to kill then it would be murder.

In this case the charge would most likely be Gross Negligence Manslaughter ( also known as Corporate Manslaughter) where death is alleged to have been caused by the negligence of the corporate body concerned. It's incredibly hard to prove, as shown in the case of the Potters Bar rail disaster. Charges of Gross Negligence Manslaughter against Railtrack and it's contractors have just been dropped and replaced by charges under H&S legislation instead.



But most of them don't blow panels off the engine and holes in the wing. Un-contained failures like this are far more unusual.

Everyones a smartass when theve had 10 mins to google.

[Bunk]

No such thing. Attempt implies intent and Manslaughter is the unplanned killing of another as a result of a related action. E.g. Someone gets punched, falls over, and dies as a result of their head hitting the kerb. It's manslaughter as there was no intent to kill, but the death was a direct result of the original punch. If the offender had attacked the victim with the intent to kill then it would be murder.

In this case the charge would most likely be Gross Negligence Manslaughter ( also known as Corporate Manslaughter) where death is alleged to have been caused by the negligence of the corporate body concerned. It's incredibly hard to prove, as shown in the case of the Potters Bar rail disaster. Charges of Gross Negligence Manslaughter against Railtrack and it's contractors have just been dropped and replaced by charges under H&S legislation instead.



But most of them don't blow panels off the engine and holes in the wing. Un-contained failures like this are far more unusual.

WHS, but in more words and better explained than I did

[DaveB]

Err they get paid, and their mistakes could have killed hundreds, they should be up at court for attempted manslaughter.

No such thing. Attempt implies intent and Manslaughter is the unplanned killing of another as a result of a related action. E.g. Someone gets punched, falls over, and dies as a result of their head hitting the kerb. It's manslaughter as there was no intent to kill, but the death was a direct result of the original punch. If the offender had attacked the victim with the intent to kill then it would be murder.

In this case the charge would most likely be Gross Negligence Manslaughter ( also known as Corporate Manslaughter) where death is alleged to have been caused by the negligence of the corporate body concerned. It's incredibly hard to prove, as shown in the case of the Potters Bar rail disaster. Charges of Gross Negligence Manslaughter against Railtrack and it's contractors have just been dropped and replaced by charges under H&S legislation instead.

The media coverage this one has been given you'd think it's doom of epic proportions. Engines fail all the time from all manufactures, changes are you've been on a plane with a failure and never knew about it.

GEC I reckon have around 20 - 30 engine in flight shut downs everyday.

But most of them don't blow panels off the engine and holes in the wing. Un-contained failures like this are far more unusual.

[Bunk]

Err they get paid, and their mistakes could have killed hundreds, they should be up at court for attempted manslaughter.

Is that even possible? I thought manslaughter was when you didn't mean to kill someone. If it's attempted, then it's murder.

[TimberWolf]

The media coverage this one has been given you'd think it's doom of epic proportions. Engines fail all the time from all manufactures, changes are you've been on a plane with a failure and never knew about it.

GEC I reckon have around 20 - 30 engine in flight shut downs everyday.

They don't ground their entire fleet though, or leave holes in their aircarft.

[kandr]

It happens.

But then I might retort, politicians should be made to bare the same responsibilities.

Engineer = 100's of lives lost.

Blair and Bush = I've lost count.

Yeah but engineers make the tanks, guns, missiles so its their fault also, fecking engineers worse that Nazis

[northernladuk]

All seems a bit complex and meaningless until the last shot of the severed fuel pipe

That is a big pipe and presume would be pumping at pressure as well! Yikes!

[scooterscot]

... = they pretend there isn't a problem?

The media coverage this one has been given you'd think it's doom of epic proportions. Engines fail all the time from all manufactures, changes are you've been on a plane with a failure and never knew about it.

GEC I reckon have around 20 - 30 engine in flight shut downs everyday.

[scooterscot]

Err they get paid, and their mistakes could have killed hundreds, they should be up at court for attempted manslaughter.

It happens.

But then I might retort, politicians should be made to bare the same responsibilities.

Engineer = 100's of lives lost.

Blair and Bush = I've lost count.

[TimberWolf]

Err they get paid, and their mistakes could have killed hundreds, they should be up at court for attempted manslaughter.

A good job IT doesn't work like that.

[kandr]

Engineers are fantastic we enjoy all the good work they do day after day without so much as a thank you, but when something goes wrong...

Err they get paid, and their mistakes could have killed hundreds, they should be up at court for attempted manslaughter.