Reply to: Glory be. The day has dawned at last.

[kandr]

I understand where EO and Doogie are coming from. When you've contracted for a long time... (looks over shoulder nervously......pause), it's not really about the money but more about a feeling of self worth & lifestyle

(legs it)

That's a different reason though, to leave purely because you think your rate is too high is just not good business sense.

[MarillionFan]

As a contractor you agree a rate up front and the client can let you go any time they want. How is this dragging all the money from your client?? You are hardly screwing them.

I understand where EO and Doogie are coming from. When you've contracted for a long time... (looks over shoulder nervously......pause), it's not really about the money but more about a feeling of self worth & lifestyle

(legs it)

[kandr]

Some of us believe in providing a high-quality service, not just draining the client's coffers.

I'm way more likely to recommend a tradesman who doesn't seem desperate to drag every penny out of me. The mechanic we use often does short jobs for free and he's gone from man-with-van to owning his own premises... we recommend him to everyone because we trust him not to shaft us.

Maximising profits doesn't mean dragging all the money from your one client. It means thinking of the bigger picture, getting MORE clients and repeat business.

As a contractor you agree a rate up front and the client can let you go any time they want. How is this dragging all the money from your client?? You are hardly screwing them.

[d000hg]

Your only interest is your own business's profit, you wont last long by voluntarily cutting of income streams.

Some of us believe in providing a high-quality service, not just draining the client's coffers.

I'm way more likely to recommend a tradesman who doesn't seem desperate to drag every penny out of me. The mechanic we use often does short jobs for free and he's gone from man-with-van to owning his own premises... we recommend him to everyone because we trust him not to shaft us.

Maximising profits doesn't mean dragging all the money from your one client. It means thinking of the bigger picture, getting MORE clients and repeat business.

[EternalOptimist]

To be honest, about the integrity thing. If it was a monolithic corporation, it wouldnt bother me too much

but a small guy running a ten man software house ? nah, its not on.

[northernladuk]

EO - could you offer to do a couple of days/week and save the client 50% ?

But make sure you put your rates up by 25% to cover the inconvenience

[kandr]

It depends what you're hired as. If as a code-monkey then sure, I agree. If you're brought in to have some sort of input on the business side, then part of your role can certainly be knowing when you are no longer needed and advising the client of this. Unless you're on some NHS gravy-train of course.

Your only interest is your own business's profit, you wont last long by voluntarily cutting of income streams. I suppose though when you are gulping your last drink of meths in your cardboard box you can sleep well in the knowledge that you didn't cost your client more money than necessary (in your opinion)

[BoredBloke]

For what it's worth, everywhere I go they could probably got somebody cheaper to do my job better!

[d000hg]

Dooog,

I think you are confusing something else with something else.

Walking out of a contract does not compute.

Who cares about the money, who are we to judge what is expensive and what is not, better big companies spend money on us lot than waste it elsewhere, and it's not as if it is the Manager's money anyway

Milan in 'I sleep very well at night thank you' mode.

It depends what you're hired as. If as a code-monkey then sure, I agree. If you're brought in to have some sort of input on the business side, then part of your role can certainly be knowing when you are no longer needed and advising the client of this. Unless you're on some NHS gravy-train of course.

[FiveTimes]

EO - could you offer to do a couple of days/week and save the client 50% ?

[kandr]

EO that's a noble thing you did, well done. However for me I would never leave a contract for the reason that I thought they were paying me too much. My primary concern is my business's wellbeing, and is the client is happy to pay me then I will gladly accept.

[milanbenes]

Someone still has some professional integrity. Nice.

Dooog,

I think you are confusing something else with something else.

Walking out of a contract does not compute.

Who cares about the money, who are we to judge what is expensive and what is not, better big companies spend money on us lot than waste it elsewhere, and it's not as if it is the Manager's money anyway



Milan in 'I sleep very well at night thank you' mode.

[MarillionFan]

that should take me up to feb, then I'll start to look again

Personally I think the market is quite good for experienced contractors and will always be for those with niche skills.

[EternalOptimist]

Nice one EO. What's your plans for your free time then?

I have to finish my van gogh, painting by numbers. its been there for years and its a blooming half finished embarrassment.
rest.

do some photo shop stuff. write a story for cuk.

mmmm

cook for the missus. make her a hot toddy, everytime she comes home from work.

mmmm

polish me tub

that should take me up to feb, then I'll start to look again

[d000hg]

EO,

'I am out of this contract. We had a chat on wed and he asked me my opinion on how things were going and I told him straight - you need someone cheaper.'


does not compute !

Milan.

Someone still has some professional integrity. Nice.