Reply to: Will £40,000 minimum salary curb intra company transfer immigration loophole?

[d000hg]

local office so small commute

AtW, every job is a local office if you live in the right place.

[d000hg]

Eh?? 40K is a lot?? What planet are you on?

40K is graduate salary straight out of university in an IB

Look outside London. Look outside IB.

[AtW]

Eh?? 40K is a lot?? What planet are you on?

£40k real salary (with employer NI on top) is a pretty decent level that eliminates massive price differential whilst keeping the same skill level of those who were brought under it.

This probably won't help as much contractors who want to charge £500+ per day but any large reduction of a gap in pay would have positive effect.

[DeludedAussie]

But these people are hired to be cheaper than home-grown, no? £40k is a fairly hefty salary for a developer/code-monkey, certainly I could find very good people I've worked with before who are paid less.

Eh?? 40K is a lot?? What planet are you on?

40K is graduate salary straight out of university in an IB

[AtW]

I haven't signed the contract yet

[NickFitz]

...also a chance to work with some of the greatest minds of the modern era

I haven't signed the contract yet

[NickFitz]

Who said developers? Business analysts, 'consultants', project managers, project support, programme directors, PMO staff...

I thought those were the kind of roles normally kept on-shore, as they involve jobs for management, rather than for developers who actually make things rather than shuffling documents back and forth and having endless meetings.

FTFY

[AtW]

would you mind saying roughly what you pay your permie developers - IIRC you have some - if it's OK to do so?

Yes it's ok, but please don't tell anyone else...


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above market rate?


Well, we probably pay market rate - however on top of that there are valuable perks - interesting job, local office so small commute (that's worth a lot - I know I had to drive 120 miles per day on M6 in my previous job...), also a chance to work with some of the greatest minds of the modern era

[d000hg]

£30k is what they advertise on the "learn IT" TV adverts on daytime TV. I have no idea what the averages are, but remember how skewed they are by London and the South East. Where you're based is perhaps more representative, would you mind saying roughly what you pay your permie developers - IIRC you have some - if it's OK to do so?

[AtW]

I remember back in early 2000 when I got my work permit unofficial rule of thumb was that getting it in IT field meant at least £30k salary, which was not too bad 10 years ago given current inflation

[d000hg]

Intra-company transfers - immigration loophole - i.e. people working here.

Sory, sleepy
Still, £40k is a decent salary for nearly any kind of job outside the south-east, certainly not far off. The bobs have to be a significant saving to be worth the hassle don't they?

[AtW]

£40k is not a bad limit even if some creative accounting factors into this food/rent/etc even though IMHO £40k must mean £40k salary with all normal income/NI deductions.

[RichardCranium]

I thought those were the kind of roles normally kept on-shore, as they involve client interaction and domain knowledge.

Intra-company transfers - immigration loophole - i.e. people working here.

[d000hg]

I thought those were the kind of roles normally kept on-shore, as they involve client interaction and domain knowledge.

[RichardCranium]

Where does this £1000+ for Indian developers come from?

Who said developers? Business analysts, 'consultants', project managers, project support, programme directors, PMO staff...