Reply to: Simulation Modelling for Events

[d000hg]

sounds like a three monther. I'll do it for 25k

I'll do it in 2 months for 24k on a T&M basis.

I might use my ROS and get EO to do it for a tenner though.

You could use these cheap unskilled workers. Or hire me. It will cost £100k but that's the cost of quality.

Alternatively, can't you just install SimCity on their laptops?

[TimberWolf]

I did Operational Research too. Forgotten it all now. It involved table elements that you had to cross out and rearrange or something? I wonder if it was useful.

Ah, a little more has come back to me about what we did in OR. Linear programming, simplex method and a few others. Mathematica probably does this now.

[Troll]

Arena, Witness, Simul8, Quest Riskmaster migh be worth loooking at.

I worked with an events company and helped run a 10,000 people festival and pack out the Brixton Academy and other venues.
From experience cancel early if ticket sales are slow to give punters time to unbook time off and travel plans. I know people who have lost their houses due to their optimism.
Security and stewarding numbers are increasingly defined by Police and licenses are granted on condition of higher police numbers paid by the festival of course, hence a few UK festivals didn't run this year ... Glade, Waveform..

What sort of events do they run? Is this their first festival? A model sure would smooth over licence application with the local authority and police. Not sure if the crew I worked with used such modelling tools, it's not really worth it at the 10k level.

I'd be interested in seeing the modelling, not that I'm anything to do with any festivals anymore.

Just occasionally... a stream of usefulness surfaces within CUK

[Pogle]

Oh QUEST software - that takes me back, my first job in IT was using Quest to simulate the manufacturing shop floor process in the production of a certain fighter aircraft for BAe.
It was great as we created a virtual shop floor , so you could whizz around it in 3D.
We got bored with the standard issue people in the simulation so we tried to re write the code and make them dalek shaped.
And we used a great 3D mouse too

Oh happy geeky days

[scooterscot]

Simulation Software by SIMUL8 - Improve process performance risk free

Yup Simul8, a company that started from the university of Strathclyde, if I recall it's HQ is on campus.

We used to simulate blood donation centres and queuing systems and the like.

[Aman]

Mr

Having got pissed last night at a dinner party with someone senior for a major events company, they mentioned that they had trouble predicting sales/ROI on their events. In addition, they mentioned they had problems on capacity/health & safety.

I then sketched out a model including simulation modelling of the whole event, including stage times, toilet locations, food etc. It look pretty bloody amazing on a piece of A4!!!

Just had a call saying that she's told the board she knows an expert who can help and they've asked me to come up with a pitch next month.

Can anyone recommend any software???

Arena, Witness, Simul8, Quest Riskmaster migh be worth loooking at.

I worked with an events company and helped run a 10,000 people festival and pack out the Brixton Academy and other venues.
From experience cancel early if ticket sales are slow to give punters time to unbook time off and travel plans. I know people who have lost their houses due to their optimism.
Security and stewarding numbers are increasingly defined by Police and licenses are granted on condition of higher police numbers paid by the festival of course, hence a few UK festivals didn't run this year ... Glade, Waveform..

What sort of events do they run? Is this their first festival? A model sure would smooth over licence application with the local authority and police. Not sure if the crew I worked with used such modelling tools, it's not really worth it at the 10k level.

I'd be interested in seeing the modelling, not that I'm anything to do with any festivals anymore.

[suityou01]

Pot calling kettle black.

Always, this is general!

[MarillionFan]

It sounds quite straight forward but it probably isn't. Modelling the behaviour of people in crowds is quite complicated.

You might start here:

Crowd Dynamics | Crowd Management, Crowd Modelling, Crowd Behaviour

Cheers doodab.

I've seen a few programs where they've used Sim style models. There's bound to be a software for it I'm not aware of it yet.

[fullyautomatix]

OK ok ok I added the tags. Happy now?

Pot calling kettle black.

[suityou01]

Its quite straight forward. Basically you are looking to model an entire site, plus 50000+ individuals, the roads in, parking, when they leave, the routes they walk around the site, when they need to go to the loo, when they are hungry, what music stages they will visit based on when they’re scheduled.
You need arrival distributions, little erlang modelling, randomness.
Associate costs to all the staff, facilities, music. Little model for ticket sales / volumes / marketing.
Keep running the simulations, benchmark them, produce a scorecard with different scenarios and Bob’s your uncle – done.
Piece of piss, money in the bank. Any questions?

Mmm some sort of monte carlo simulation?

[doodab]

Its quite straight forward. Basically you are looking to model an entire site, plus 50000+ individuals, the roads in, parking, when they leave, the routes they walk around the site, when they need to go to the loo, when they are hungry, what music stages they will visit based on when they’re scheduled.
You need arrival distributions, little erlang modelling, randomness.
Associate costs to all the staff, facilities, music. Little model for ticket sales / volumes / marketing.
Keep running the simulations, benchmark them, produce a scorecard with different scenarios and Bob’s your uncle – done.
Piece of piss, money in the bank. Any questions?

It sounds quite straight forward but it probably isn't. Modelling the behaviour of people in crowds is quite complicated.

You might start here:

Crowd Dynamics | Crowd Management, Crowd Modelling, Crowd Behaviour

[oracleslave]

sounds like a three monther. I'll do it for 25k

I'll do it in 2 months for 24k on a T&M basis.

I might use my ROS and get EO to do it for a tenner though.

[Xenophon]

MF, you downranking biatch. For MS Paint!

Wait 'til I get my quota re-stocked. You're going down.

Muahahahaaa...

[Xenophon]

Piece of piss, money in the bank. Any questions?

How much money?

[EternalOptimist]

Its quite straight forward. Basically you are looking to model an entire site, plus 50000+ individuals, the roads in, parking, when they leave, the routes they walk around the site, when they need to go to the loo, when they are hungry, what music stages they will visit based on when they’re scheduled.
You need arrival distributions, little erlang modelling, randomness.
Associate costs to all the staff, facilities, music. Little model for ticket sales / volumes / marketing.
Keep running the simulations, benchmark them, produce a scorecard with different scenarios and Bob’s your uncle – done.
Piece of piss, money in the bank. Any questions?

sounds like a three monther. I'll do it for 25k