Oh, and this annoys me too

[d000hg]

News last week was talking about many more school-leavers applying for fast-track schemes at companies, since so many missed out on a uni place. And only the other week, the electrician round to our house brought an apprentice who looked like about 17. Which was nice to see.

[HairyArsedBloke]

The flavour would be too bland and the texture too coarse. Besides, they wouldn't fit in the tandoor.

Hang about, who let all these fussy Bobs in? Wasn't the point to hire loads of bodies that would do what they were told, put up what they were given, and not complain?

[rsingh]

Can't we use the scroats as foodstuff for the Bobs?

The flavour would be too bland and the texture too coarse. Besides, they wouldn't fit in the tandoor.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Can't we use the scroats as foodstuff for the Bobs?

[xoggoth]

Mostly agree. All 16-18 year olds being guaranteed a place is cods. We need a more selective approach to ensure a) they have the potential to get a qualifiaction and b) the qualification they get will actually help them get a better job. Otherwise we are just contributing to the so called "pensions timebomb" by reducing time spent paying tax.

There is however a problem in that apprenticeships don't really exist anymore for the majority who are not likely to get academic qualifications but have more potential than box shifting. Some of the more practical subjects learned at college are substitutes for those, in theory anyway.

[SupremeSpod]

No. The Royal Marines need people who can do stuff like read maps, give clear, concise information to superiors, read signs on buildings like 'Nursery School' before shooting at the occupants, tie their own shoelaces etc etc

There are plenty of people who are too dim for that work.

Of course, the upshot of this is that if the Libservatives actually apply tougher standards and the number of passes and A-double-gold-stars goes down, Liebore will then say 'look how those awful tories are ruining the future of our children by cutting investment in education!'

I was being ironic.

Well, attempting to be.

[shaunbhoy]

I think the Scots might just be a thick nation though

edit: cripes, I don't want to follow CyberMan, admin I don't mean it!!!!

Weel its too late noo laddie!!!!!!!! The damage his been done..........yur Dooooommeedddd I tell ye!

[Mich the Tester]

It's called the PRMC

No. The Royal Marines need people who can do stuff like read maps, give clear, concise information to superiors, read signs on buildings like 'Nursery School' before shooting at the occupants, tie their own shoelaces etc etc

There are plenty of people who are too dim for that work.

Of course, the upshot of this is that if the Libservatives actually apply tougher standards and the number of passes and A-double-gold-stars goes down, Liebore will then say 'look how those awful tories are ruining the future of our children by cutting investment in education!'

[d000hg]

Thickies might be good at some practical vocation like carpentry or plastering or painting.

I do agree though there must be people who are thick, clumsy, and weedy... in fact it seems they tend to hang around CUK... but what can you do? People who are genuinely unable to be trained to do anything are pretty rare though if you rule out severely mentally disabled folk.

I think the Scots might just be a thick nation though

edit: cripes, I don't want to follow CyberMan, admin I don't mean it!!!!

[SupremeSpod]

What do you want? A national qualification for 'yomping about with heavy stuff'?

It's called the PRMC

[Mich the Tester]

BBC News - Rise in top grades boosts GCSE record

NASUWT General secretary Chris Keates said: "The coalition government must guarantee that all 16-18 year olds are guaranteed a place in education or training. This is the only way to avoid another lost generation of young people."

Look here, Mr Keates, some people are just too damn thick to train to do anything other than yomp around carrying heavy objects. Some of those are even too weak to lift heavy objects, and so are set to work sticking stickers on boxes or packaging stuff. What do you want? A national qualification for 'yomping about with heavy stuff'?


The whole point of a qualification or an education is that is sets you aside from the people who haven't got one and thereby gives an indication, no more or less, to any prospective employer, that you might actually be capable of doing the work he needs done. Once you hand it to everybody that purpose is lost.

Call me an elitist if you will, but I think this whole idea that every 16 to 18 year old can and must be given training is PC claptrap.


Then there's this;
Shadow Education Secretary Ed Balls said claims that exams had got easier were "complete and utter nonsense" and said students were working harder and being better taught than in the past.

Of course, Mr Bollocks. New Labour have raised a generation of goldenballs who wouldn't think of wasting their youth on sex and drugs and rock and roll, or bikes, beer and birds in my case, no no, they are all diligently studying to get that highly desired place on an NVQ Level 1 Burger Flipping course, so they can all be part of some utopian society where everybody is happy and wealthy and pleasant all day.


And what's going on in Scotland?

Students aged 15 and 16 in Scotland take standard grade exams, and received their results in early August. The pass rate was similar to the previous year.

Has human evolution ground to a halt north of the border, the country that gave us Adam Smith, James Maxwell, Alexander Fleming, to name but a few? I don't think so; I suspect those nasty Scots, having got their own little governmenty thingy, are actually insisting on applying some sane standards to their education system, knowing that before long they'll profit from that.



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