Reply to: Globalisation

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What's with all this Globalisation bollocks? Get into "Universalisation". Didn't you hear about the trading ship stuffed full of cotton shirts that landed from Jupiter recently. They are seriously going to undercut China and India any day now. Especially when they get around those 3 armed shirts they are touting. Particularly when you consider that inhabitants of Planet Jupiter only have one arm (but their IT systems are a bit wonky still, resulting in 3 armed shirts).

[Lucifer Box]

The rich in a 3rd world country live much like the rich in a First World country.

Sasguru is correct. Having actually been to India outside of Goa, this is absolutely true. Choose the area wisely and you will have everything you have here and much more besides, but with a better climate and much better standard of living. Seriously, 25k euros pa will get you a big house, a chauffeur, a butler and a maid and you'll still have change left over.

For those with the readies, the Indian health and education systems are absolutely top notch.

Oh yes, and Golden Peacock beer - delicious.

[DodgyAgent]

Such is the reach of globalisation, the old divisions of Labour and Conservative have been blurred viz. New Labour and Cameron. This means the old lefties and the traditional Conservatives are excluded. In fact because decisions are now made further away from the voter even the electorate is excluded.

Yes and maybe we as a society can be moved on from the dinosaur (nothing personal lizard ) attitudes that believe that taxation is somehow a benign means of redistributing wealth (which it is not). In a globalised world we will find that our tax must be spent as a means of providing the very best levels of public service; that if we are to fund health and education through taxation then the returns must be of the very highest standards.

[sasguru]

As DA has noted in a previous post, it was the techies who made globalisation possible. Talk about hoist with your own petard!

[BlasterBates]

Governments always have had little influence, well that is apart from dictators who have the power to repress and destroy.

The world is driven by technological developments, resources and individuals, who are all motivated in the same way, i.e. sex money and rock 'n' roll.

[NoddY]

I wasn't being sarcastic. Economically I am a Tory. It's time to substantially dismantle the welfare state as it's not working. All it succeeds in doing is bring mediocrity to education, health provision and transport.

Such is the reach of globalisation, the old divisions of Labour and Conservative have been blurred viz. New Labour and Cameron. This means the old lefties and the traditional Conservatives are excluded. In fact because decisions are now made further away from the voter even the electorate is excluded.

[AlfredJPruffock]

I got a little side business, where I broker exports of beer and wine from Europe to India. Spent a fair bit of time there last year. There are some job opportunities there for European/American educated IT pros, but Europe and America is still where all the best jobs are. Expat salaries in India are very high, compared to what your Indian counterparts will be making and most employers will even provide you with housing, servants and car with chauffeur. It's great if you want to chalk up a bit of experience, but definitely not a good idea if you want to live there for the long term. India is developping, but it is still a 3rd world country with according living conditions (i.e. not guaranteed to have running water/electricity, 24 hrs a day, depite living in a posh neighborhood etc.)

If you speak another European language, there are plenty of good IT/Business Development opportunities. Work Permits don't appear to be too complicated to acquire either.

Check out www.naukri.com, the jobserve of India!

Many thanks for that very useful information.

PS Do you think there might be an interest in exporting Belgian Beers for the Indian Market?

[sasguru]

Trouble is sasguru you seem to be under the misapprehension that we can have it both ways.

It's no good dismissing the downsides of what you subscribe to by dismissing them as a Tory agenda.

Like I said 1st time round. You pays y'money and takes y'choice.

I wasn't being sarcastic. Economically I am a Tory. It's time to substantially dismantle the welfare state as it's not working. All it succeeds in doing is bring mediocrity to education, health provision and transport.

[BobTheCrate]

Trouble is sasguru you seem to be under the misapprehension that we can have it both ways.

It's no good dismissing the downsides of what you subscribe to by dismissing them as a Tory agenda.

Like I said 1st time round. You pays y'money and takes y'choice.

[sasguru]

There is no solution until such time as those subscribing to and encouraging globalisation acknowledge that the realisation of it will slaughter the public purse.

I am not diagramatically opposed to globalisation but wish those encouraging it would at least acknowledge the significant trouble it would cause.

Because with the current public purse the UK simply could not compete, creating the very abject poverty you mention.

Ditch most of the free education, the NHS, social services and most of the public workforce. Ditch council taxes and local business rates and fine, the UK could then compete on a much more level playing field.

Oh and ditch most of the regulations and employment rights too. Our competitors aren't hamstrung with such niceties.

Ah excellent. A genuine Tory agenda. The only way to make the country great again.

[Crown Royal]

India

I got a little side business, where I broker exports of beer and wine from Europe to India. Spent a fair bit of time there last year. There are some job opportunities there for European/American educated IT pros, but Europe and America is still where all the best jobs are. Expat salaries in India are very high, compared to what your Indian counterparts will be making and most employers will even provide you with housing, servants and car with chauffeur. It's great if you want to chalk up a bit of experience, but definitely not a good idea if you want to live there for the long term. India is developping, but it is still a 3rd world country with according living conditions (i.e. not guaranteed to have running water/electricity, 24 hrs a day, depite living in a posh neighborhood etc.)

If you speak another European language, there are plenty of good IT/Business Development opportunities. Work Permits don't appear to be too complicated to acquire either.

Check out www.naukri.com, the jobserve of India!

[BobTheCrate]

So what's your solution? Snap import tariffs on everything coming in, ban companies from using overseas labour, put the walls up?
What do you think the consequences of that will be? Abject poverty and probably the fastest decline of civilisation in history.

There is no solution until such time as those subscribing to and encouraging globalisation acknowledge that the realisation of it will slaughter the public purse.

I am not diagramatically opposed to globalisation but wish those encouraging it would at least acknowledge the significant trouble it would cause.

Because with the current public purse the UK simply could not compete, creating the very abject poverty you mention.

Ditch most of the free education, the NHS, social services and most of the public workforce. Ditch council taxes and local business rates and fine, the UK could then compete on a much more level playing field.

Oh and ditch most of the regulations and employment rights too. Our competitors aren't hamstrung with such niceties.

[sasguru]

You'd have to adjust to life in what is still a 3rd world country. No, hold on a minute, we're already there aren't we?

The rich in a 3rd world country live much like the rich in a First World country.

[AlfredJPruffock]

According to the Indian Inland Revenue website tax calculator, a salary of 7.8m rupees (approx 100k pounds) would attract tax of 2.5m rupees (including social, education and surcharge insurance, i.e. all in), so about 35%.

Given the cash you would realise from liquidating some assets here, that is plenty to live like a prince. Seriously, I would do it were it not for Mrs Lucifer and the imminent arrival of the anti-christ.

On your salary of 25k euros (approx 1.3m rupees) you would pay 0.4m rupees tax.

Fab gear , were all off to India then ,summer of Love 2006 here we come !

Cool in a kafthan
Love and Peace Man

[ChimpMaster]

You'd have to adjust to life in what is still a 3rd world country. No, hold on a minute, we're already there aren't we?