Reply to: Vuvuzela Concerto in B Flat

[minestrone]

You could practice your embouchure.........

I think I am going to be sick.

No vuvuzela lips for me.

[thunderlizard]

And I did set things up by saying "I'm not a brass player..." rather than "I'm not a woodwind player..."
We have a wonderful language where sometimes a word can mean more than one thing and you need to apply a degree of comprehension to work out which is meant under the circs. Unhappily The Normal Police doesn't like that.

[Drewster]

If Churchill gets the horn I would advise you lot to stay out of the showers.

You could practice your embouchure.........

[minestrone]

If Churchill gets the horn I would advise you lot to stay out of the showers.

[Drewster]

ooh, that is beyond picky. It's so far beyond picky that you should probably nip into threaded's time machine and inform Miles Davis, who called his horn a horn all through his life and autobiography.

And to think I edited my post from "major 4th" to "perfect 4th" to preempt the nitpickers!

I did say "normally'.........

There are quite a few Jazzmen who play "French Horn" as well...... but "Hornman", "Horn blower" etc most often refers to the Sax player.....

"Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art." - CHARLIE PARKER

Miles might call a trumpet a horn but Bird calls a Sax a horn.......

In 1965, when this recording was made, he seemed to fill the room with his tone in a different way. In the early ‘60s, he was playing through his horn and flying around his horn—his sound attacked you, it came at you.

And Trane played horn too....

[thunderlizard]

Not to be picky but..... a Horn player normally plays Sax

ooh, that is beyond picky. It's so far beyond picky that you should probably nip into threaded's time machine and inform Miles Davis, who called his horn a horn all through his life and autobiography.

And to think I edited my post from "major 4th" to "perfect 4th" to preempt the nitpickers!

[minestrone]

Just made 2 grand on the frogs game, laid up on not being 0-0.

It's a chorus of happiness for me.

Another 200 made on the other game.

Made 3 grand in the last 24 hours.

[minestrone]

It's Bb in the Mex - Uru game on at the moment.

Just made 2 grand on the frogs game, laid up on not being 0-0.

It's a chorus of happiness for me.

[Bunk]

d sharp.

It's Bb in the Mex - Uru game on at the moment.

[minestrone]

d sharp.

[Drewster]

I believe I am right in saying that to qualify as a proper "Cockney", you must be born within earshot of the Bow Bells. If that is still a qualification then most modern "Cockneys" would be more at home with a Vuvuzela!!

St-Mary-le-Bow bells doesn't have quite the same "ring" but they are supposed to be what are within earshot.......

[Drewster]

.......I bet a proper horn player would do better.

Not to be picky but..... a Horn player normally plays Sax..... which has a very different embouchure than brass players (which is what you would use for the Vuvu.....).

I play Sax but can't blow a Trumpet for Tulip!!

[shaunbhoy]

Come the olympics it's going to be the spoons for all those cockneys.

I believe I am right in saying that to qualify as a proper "Cockney", you must be born within earshot of the Bow Bells. If that is still a qualification then most modern "Cockneys" would be more at home with a Vuvuzela!!

[thunderlizard]

Right. TL your roving reporter had a go on a real life vuvuzela last night, courtesy of an ex-SA radio DJ. They are just a plastic horn-shaped tube so they require an embouchure, and I'm not a brass player. But you can reasonably get 2 notes out of them: 1 main note and another a perfect 4th above it. With some mad squeezing I almost got a third note, an octave above the main one, but then my tonsils felt like they'd flipped back to front and I gave up. But I bet a proper horn player would do better.

[NickFitz]

Even if it is B flat, that concerto's scored in the wrong octave.

Correct

Not to detract from your observation, but that has been mentioned in many of the places the score has been posted. It seems odd that minestrone's towering musical genius - backed up by nothing less than a piano - didn't spot that