Reply to: Homosexuality is correct and they will be protected to the full extent of the law..

[original PM]

True and interestingly enough I had a similar discussion with my elderly parents.

and the only thing we could agree on was that no one can make a decsion on whether it is a good thing or a bad thing as adoption by same sex couples is a relatively new thing so no one has any real idea on whether or not it will affect the child.

[NotAllThere]

not sure but the implication is that man love is more of a sin than gang rape....

Only the eyes of a nutter who considered that his duty of hospitality was more important than his duty to protect his daughter and his mistress. Which, in fact, is not far off from the way some cultures are today. Just shows - "there's nothing new under the sun."

[NotAllThere]

As far as I can tell no quote was being quoted seriously. Just the usual "Blind leading the blind".

[original PM]

Why? Does the text go on to say this guy was right in what he did?

not sure but the implication is that man love is more of a sin than gang rape....

[Churchill]

So it would appear that while the bible thinks homosexuality is wrong gang rape is fun for all the family

I think that kind of puts a stop on using the bible as any serious text to quote.

Would any rational person ever consider doing such a thing?

[NotAllThere]

So it would appear that while the bible thinks homosexuality is wrong gang rape is fun for all the family...

Why? Does the text go on to say this guy was right in what he did?

[original PM]

Judges 19:22-25 (New International Version)
22 While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him."
23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends, don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this disgraceful thing. 24 Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But to this man, don't do such a disgraceful thing."
25 But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go.

So it would appear that while the bible thinks homosexuality is wrong gang rape is fun for all the family

I think that kind of puts a stop on using the bible as any serious text to quote.

[NotAllThere]

The thread is so active you might not have spotted my edit, where I've point out that the word translated as "strange", is ετερας, which is pronounced "Heteros". Presumably the root word for "Heterosexual"

[MarillionFan]

Ahhh so "Phil the Greek" was actually "Fill the Greek"...

Very clever. Just Babled this. It's not from the Bible, its a recipe for Hummus!

[Churchill]

It must be from a paraphrased version.

Anyway, that Jude quote in full.

ως σοδομα και γομορρα και αι περι αυτας πολεις τον ομοιον τουτοις τροπον εκπορνευσασαι και απελθουσαι οπισω σαρκος ετερας προκεινται δειγμα πυρος αιωνιου δικην υπεχουσαι

So that's clear then.

Ahhh so "Phil the Greek" was actually "Fill the Greek"...

[northernladuk]

It must be from a paraphrased version.

Anyway, that Jude quote in full.

ως σοδομα και γομορρα και αι περι αυτας πολεις τον ομοιον τουτοις τροπον εκπορνευσασαι και απελθουσαι οπισω σαρκος ετερας προκεινται δειγμα πυρος αιωνιου δικην υπεχουσαι

So that's clear then.

Hmm that doesn't quite excite me as much as Churchills version!

[shaunbhoy]

Anyway, that Jude quote in full.

ως σοδομα και γομορρα και αι περι αυτας πολεις τον ομοιον τουτοις τροπον εκπορνευσασαι και απελθουσαι οπισω σαρκος ετερας προκεινται δειγμα πυρος αιωνιου δικην υπεχουσαι

So that's clear then.

PAH!!!!!!!!!!! Splitter!!!

[MarillionFan]

It must be from a paraphrased version.

Anyway, that Jude quote in full.

ως σοδομα και γομορρα και αι περι αυτας πολεις τον ομοιον τουτοις τροπον εκπορνευσεεαι και απελθουσαι οπισω σαρκος ετερας προκεινται δειγμα πυρος αιωνιου δικην υπεχουσαι

So that's clear then.

ftfy

[NotAllThere]

ROFL!!! If it was written like that I might have bothered reading the bloody thing

It must be from a paraphrased version.

Anyway, that Jude quote in full.

ως σοδομα και γομορρα και αι περι αυτας πολεις τον ομοιον τουτοις τροπον εκπορνευσασαι και απελθουσαι οπισω σαρκος ετερας προκεινται δειγμα πυρος αιωνιου δικην υπεχουσαι

So that's clear then. So long as you have a full understanding of the word ετερας which is pronounced "Heteros"...

[northernladuk]

Christ doesn't say anything in the "old testament". However, it is said that he made reference to the "old testament" in his teachings etc.

I believe that Jesus does mention it not being kosher to spill your seed on barren earth and chucking yer man-muck up someone's poop-chute strikes me as being barren.

ROFL!!! If it was written like that I might have bothered reading the bloody thing