Reply to: Vatican fails epically to get it

[expat]

If you're referring to the Swiss Guard then you would do well to reconsider. They're a superbly trained fighting force but of course you know this - or should!

Next you'll be saying that the Irish Rangers are a band of peasant potato farmers!

No, that's the Glasgow Rangers

[Churchill]

Let's be honest, any organisation that believes it can be defended by a bunch of panto-dames with penknives, doesn't have all their oars in the water.
Mind you, if that truly is your defence strategy, you could do a lot worse than locate yourself slap-bang in the middle of Italy!!

If you're referring to the Swiss Guard then you would do well to reconsider. They're a superbly trained fighting force but of course you know this - or should!

Next you'll be saying that the Irish Rangers are a band of peasant potato farmers!

[Churchill]

How come nobody else has twigged that this, not the idea that Jesus had children by Mary Magdalen, is actually the great secret spoken of in "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail" and "The Da Vinci Code".

Take a look at that Da Vinci painting, The Last Supper, that sure isn't a man. If it's not a woman, ie Mary Magdalen, it can only be ... a little boy!

A picture painted by a man who wasn't there of an event that never happened.

[The Wikir Man]

PS It almost certainly isn't only the Catholic church

I agree, and so does the Daily Mash

[xoggoth]

PS It almost certainly isn't only the Catholic church.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4831184.stm

Probably other religions too. It is insane to trust children to the sole care of unrelated men without proper safegaurds. There is a particular problem with ministers of a religion because the respect they get make parents and others far more trusting.

[xoggoth]

How come nobody else has twigged that this, not the idea that Jesus had children by Mary Magdalen, is actually the great secret spoken of in "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail" and "The Da Vinci Code".

Take a look at that Da Vinci painting, The Last Supper, that sure isn't a man. If it's not a woman, ie Mary Magdalen, it can only be ... a little boy!

[expat]

FWIW I wasn't drawing attention to the paedophilia and abuse so much as to the cover-up, and especially to the high hierarchicals who don't seem to see a problem.

[OwlHoot]

Cobblers. If that were true, there would be no paedophile priests in protestant religions.

The reason there seem to have been more in the Catholic church is because in the past, trainees for the Catholic priesthood started much earlier, at about 12.

That made them somewhat immature about sex, especially sex with women. In a way they were little more than kids themselves emotionally, although that doesn't excuse them.

But I think for at least twenty years now, Catholic seminaries have only taken trainee priests in their twenties and older, as the C of E has always done. That probably explains why most of these abuse cases are decades old.

[shaunbhoy]

Let's be honest, any organisation that believes it can be defended by a bunch of panto-dames with penknives, doesn't have all their oars in the water.
Mind you, if that truly is your defence strategy, you could do a lot worse than locate yourself slap-bang in the middle of Italy!!

[cojak]

Cobblers. If that were true, there would be no paedophile priests in protestant religions.

I'm not saying that there isn't.

I'm saying that the attitude is a useful smoke-screen for paedophiles.

Other's are troubled by the celibacy issue too.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle7058065.ece

http://www.catholica.com.au/gc2/occ/043_occ_020210.php

[Mr Crosby]

Burn them.

[The Wikir Man]

It had(/has?) everything to do with celibacy in the priesthood.

Cobblers. If that were true, there would be no paedophile priests in protestant religions.

[shaunbhoy]

Ah yes, the good old days.

Cardinal Biggles???? Read the charges!!!!!!!!!!

[TimberWolf]

I get the impression some of them regret not being able to burn the whistleblowers any more, but this guy probably thinks they still can.

Ah yes, the good old days.

[Muttley08]

IMO the most selfish, delusional, downright nasty people I've ever met have been in the church or closely related to it...so not surprised in the slightest at this...

Only good thing is that its painting them in a really bad light...