If householders had guns there'd be less gun crime ... ?

[EternalOptimist]

Am I missing something here? This guy would have been left well alone if he didn't have guns in the house.

yep.

In other threads its been pointed out that possessing a weapon makes you a target, and the chances of actually deploying it are close to zero.

RC has provided the, er....smoking gun

[gingerjedi]

Am I missing something here? This guy would have been left well alone if he didn't have guns in the house.

[Churchill]

Can I play ?

Scenario #2 (the EO Defence)
As I hear you enter the house, I jump out of bed and run on the spot very hard and shout 'Achmed, chapati, gandaha - get the gear'
You immediately think I have been sleeping with a battalion of Ghurkas

whats your next move ?

Ok, HAB is in my team, he'll sort your Ghurkas out - one way or another...

[HairyArsedBloke]

For clarification : HAB is not in my team!

[EternalOptimist]

As usual, you haven't got a bloody clue!

Talk us through the scenario, you own firearms and in accordance with the law they are locked away securely.

I and two of my already armed mates burst into your house to steal your weapons.

What do you do?

Can I play ?

Scenario #2 (the EO Defence)
As I hear you enter the house, I jump out of bed and run on the spot very hard and shout 'Achmed, chapati, gandaha - get the gear'
You immediately think I have been sleeping with a battalion of Ghurkas

whats your next move ?

[voodooflux]

For clarification : HAB is not in my team!

That's not a shotgun under his coat, he's just pleased to see you.

[Churchill]

Fights hard to avoid being forced onto his knees

For clarification : HAB is not in my team!

[d000hg]

Fights hard to avoid being forced onto his knees

[Churchill]

If I could choose I'd certainly prefer to go down fighting, rather than begging. It may not make much differerence for me, but it may for others - it's called "deterrent" effect.

As usual, you haven't got a bloody clue!

Talk us through the scenario, you own firearms and in accordance with the law they are locked away securely.

I and two of my already armed mates burst into your house to steal your weapons.

What do you do?

[NickFitz]

It's the choice that one makes - die fighting on your feet, or die begging on your knees.

It seems that neither of these were options in these two cases

[AtW]

Not much difference if you're going to wind up dead anyway.

If I could choose I'd certainly prefer to go down fighting, rather than begging. It may not make much differerence for me, but it may for others - it's called "deterrent" effect.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

It's the choice that one makes - die fighting on your feet, or die begging on your knees.

Not much difference if you're going to wind up dead anyway.

[AtW]

It's the choice that one makes - die fighting on your feet, or die begging on your knees.

[Cliphead]

Link.

Now if only these householders had guns to protect themselves...

Legally they're locked up and difficult to access quickly. Keep one under yer pillow on the other hand...

[RichardCranium]

Link.

Gang shoot Belfast homeowner to get guns

Legally-held guns have been stolen from two houses in west Belfast, with one man being shot when he refused to give a gang his firearms.

The first robbery happened at about 1830 GMT on Wednesday in Larkspur Rise off the Suffolk Road. A man in his 30s was shot in the leg when he refused to hand over weapons to a three-strong gang.

Just 45 minutes later three men forced the occupant of a house on Ballymurphy Road to hand over firearms.

Now if only these householders had guns to protect themselves...