Reply to: Betrayed

[ace00]

OMG, I've just realised I sound like CyberIdiot.

LOL

Looks like you are more qualified than me, probably not infinitely though....

So I don't think you'll argue that a proper hacker would not have been caught.

[Cyberman]

Those who are mentaly incapacitated are not capable of making rational decisions nor understanding consequences. Where you and I understand the difference between right and wrong and choose our actions they do not. They simply do not "commit" crimes.

Prison is no place for them. Those who are inept are targets for bullying and manipulation of the worst sorts and those who are violent are a threat to other inmates and officers alike and they are a threat to the peaceful running of the prison.

There are very few prison officers trained to look after the mentaly ill, let alone care for them.

We need more institutions to cope with these people. Prison is not the answer.

I'm referring to those that develop mental problems while serving a sentence. DOH!!!!!

[The Lone Gunman]

I agree, but they are better to be alive and run that risk than suffer the dreadful death that their victims did. It's part of the sentence as far as I am concerned. Don't do the crime and you won't need to do the time.

Those who are mentaly incapacitated are not capable of making rational decisions nor understanding consequences. Where you and I understand the difference between right and wrong and choose our actions they do not. They simply do not "commit" crimes.

Prison is no place for them. Those who are inept are targets for bullying and manipulation of the worst sorts and those who are violent are a threat to other inmates and officers alike and they are a threat to the peaceful running of the prison.

There are very few prison officers trained to look after the mentaly ill, let alone care for them.

We need more institutions to cope with these people. Prison is not the answer.

[Cyberman]

Actually prisons create alot of mental illness and don't have the facilities to treat in most cases....

I agree, but they are better to be alive and run that risk than suffer the dreadful death that their victims did. It's part of the sentence as far as I am concerned. Don't do the crime and you won't need to do the time.

[JamieMoles]

I bet there's lots of mentally ill people in prisons. It's one of the best places for them IMO, bearing in mind the lack of suitable facilities elsewhere.

Actually prisons create alot of mental illness and don't have the facilities to treat in most cases....

[Mr Crosby]

Hang him.

[xoggoth]

Until it is ratified by Congress and not a one sided arrangement this treaty should be ignored. Except when it suits us, Abu Hamza etc.

[expat]

OMG, I've just realised I sound like CyberIdiot.

No, the nice thing is that no matter how bad you get, you never get that bad.

[Incognito]

Who cares !! Why should we try to protect our criminals. We are too damn soft. The US can have all of our murderers and execute the lot of them as far as I am concerned. Then we might have a deterrent at last !!

OMG, I've just realised I sound like CyberIdiot.

[Cyberman]

However, it must be observed that the Septics have never ratified their part of the treaty, so this is entirely one way.

From the UK to the US...

You can imagine the fuss if we tried to extradite a Septic under similar circumstances.

Who cares !! Why should we try to protect our criminals. We are too damn soft. The US can have all of our murderers and execute the lot of them as far as I am concerned. Then we might have a deterrent at last !!

[Incognito]

We should apply the Golden Rule to them, and do as they would do unto us.

Ahhh, good old W100. I remember that module well.

[Incognito]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I think it's pretty disgusting that your country will allow you to be extradited to another country without any evidence being presented to a court in your own country.

I'm not commenting on the ethics behind it, just purely the law.

[Incognito]

Do you even work in IT?

I guarantee you I am infinitely more qualified than you to discuss this subject considering I work in the 'industry.' I'm a member of the security architecture board for my product specialisation. Why are you so qualified on the subject?

This guy targeted private infrastructure in the US and piggybacked off them to attack US state IT infrastructure. He clearly knew what he was doing and attempted to hide his trail. This wasn't a guy being bored and deciding to do a sniff on the internet.

[darmstadt]

Brings back memories of Comecon when the septics said you can't sell computers to East European countries otherwise you'll be put in prison, in the USA, sod which country you come from.

[Moscow Mule]

The UK also has an agreement with Canada, Australia and New Zealand regarding reciprocal agreements which means that the UK doesn't have to present any evidence with the request.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I think it's pretty disgusting that your country will allow you to be extradited to another country without any evidence being presented to a court in your own country.