Reply to: Learning guitar

[BlasterBates]

I think Jazz piano is a lot harder than Jazz guitar, because once you have a "lick" you can simply transpose, so in effect you can learn this stuff more or less without having the musical theory. I do classical guitar, but I learnt blues more or less by playing around, and then with Jazz admittedly I did a few exercises but eventually got a hang of the feeling, adapt the blues patterns to be jazz patterns, a got the hang of the Jazz 12 bar chord progression, and then away you go. Have no idea about chromatic progressions but throw in a heap of cool dischordant notes in my Jazz licks.

[AlfredJPruffock]

hmmm. i'm with frank zappa on this. learn the seven chords and then shut up and play yer guitar!

Good Album - I think the best ever electric guitar sols was Zappas sublime 'Zombty Woof' from the album Overnight Sensation - Fleet was a big Zappa fan - bless him.

[AlfredJPruffock]

He can play jazz - he just despises it. ( Probably 'cos his grandad is a jazz musician... )

I beg to differ - as it happens I can play the classics which I happen to like - Debussy , Bach Rachmaninov etc all based on my Knowledege of Jazz - they are different mediums of musical expression - but both require a knowledge of musical theory which is consistent in both cases.

Believe it or not - you have to be able to play all piano scales and chromatics to be a reasonable jazz Pianist - its not all flash improvisation you know.

And - it dont mean a thing if it aint got swing.

[NotAllThere]

He can play jazz - he just despises it. ( Probably 'cos his grandad is a jazz musician... )

[DS23]

nothing
At least, that's what my son told me to say... (he's a pretty good classical pianist).

but wrong.

[NotAllThere]

...If you're really crap just turn up the volume and no-one will ever know...

gain

...I play jazz piano too so I know all about musical theory ...

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At least, that's what my son told me to say... (he's a pretty good classical pianist).

[AlfredJPruffock]

Having played the guitar for some 30 years now I say you are off to a bad start - its much better to learn the guitar on an acoustic rather than an electric.



Your fingertips will hurt - the key to really enjoying the guitar is that remember your strumming technique is extremely important - most folks get caught up in trying to remember the chord shape of say Eflat mior seven - and neglect the strumming.

That approach means you will end up paicking in it after nine months.

in fact you only need to know a handful of chrods to really get rocking - I play jazz piano too so I know all about musical theory - but for the guitar - trust me you only need to know a few major chrods and their relative minors - and youre away.


Pick up my Guitar
And Play
Just like Yesterday
And I Get on my knees and pray ...

[Bagpuss]

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when you get to a reasonable standard you can learn songs free from youtube

just type the <song name> followed by 'lesson'

[Cliphead]

Things turn out better by accident sometimes.

But you can't organize accidents.

Talent will out...

[threaded]

Things turn out better by accident sometimes.

But you can't organize accidents.

[SQLTerrorist]

mel bay would be a good resource

[Cliphead]

I'd suggest you get yourself along to a teacher to show you the basics.

No need if you're enthusiastic and willing to put the time in.

I bought a guitar and Frederick Noad's Solo Guitar Playing Book 1, twelve months later I did my first gig and never looked back.

[threaded]

I now need some advice on good sources of learning. Where do I start?

I'd suggest you get yourself along to a teacher to show you the basics.

[DS23]

.......It consists of 20 professionally produced DVDs, 5 Jam-Along CDs, a 100+ page lesson book.....

hmmm. i'm with frank zappa on this. learn the seven chords and then shut up and play yer guitar!

[Cliphead]

Earplugs - Shirley

There is a house in New Orleans...

When I was learning to play I'd be hammering out some tune or riff repeatedly, my old man casually asked 'is that difficult to play?', not really I said, 'well it's fckin hard to listen go outside and kick a ball.'

Ah well, he stopped complaining when my guitar playing bought him a new car.