Reply to: The catholic church

[TykeMerc]

The crucifixion provides a way to have your sins taken away, for those who ask. It didn't suddenly render everyone on the planet sinless and good. As you may have noticed...

Poorly designed and implemented solution from the Holy Trinity then. Project milestone completely missed, final deliverables will suffer.

Very poor Project Management, seek an alternative.

[NotAllThere]

Sort of silly to stick your only boy up on the cross to take all those sins away and then not take them away..

The crucifixion provides a way to have your sins taken away, for those who ask. It didn't suddenly render everyone on the planet sinless and good. As you may have noticed...

[BrilloPad]

Sort of silly to stick your only boy up on the cross to take all those sins away and then not take them away. Maybe JC had trashed heaven with a party when God was away for the weekend?

Crucifiction seems a bit harsh for an out of hand party. Unless it was my house that is....

[Incognito]

Dunno. Notwithstanding my earlier comment, I don't know much about Catholic doctrine.

Sort of silly to stick your only boy up on the cross to take all those sins away and then not take them away. Maybe JC had trashed heaven with a party when God was away for the weekend?

[realityhack]

I've heard that explained as - all religions teach how to make yourself good enough for God. Christianity says you can't do it - but God can, and, apparently, is willing to.

Spot on.

[NotAllThere]

I thought that the whole point of being baptised was for the for the remission of sins. Then you only have to goto confession if you've done something wrong?

Dunno. Notwithstanding my earlier comment, I don't know much about Catholic doctrine.

[NotAllThere]

Also interesting that you should quote the Christian New Testament, for (the vast minority of) Christians believe in salvation by grace, not by works (or mans' efforts) alone. This aspect of Christianity makes it entirely unique. Note that many 'religions' masquerade as Christianity.

I've heard that explained as - all religions teach how to make yourself good enough for God. Christianity says you can't do it - but God can, and, apparently, is willing to.

Such as?

Catholicism, for example?

[Incognito]

But catholics are supposed to regulalrly go to confession and get absolved - so I'd have thought that meant that the church considers humans to be evil.

Any catholics care to comment?

I thought that the whole point of being baptised was for the for the remission of sins. Then you only have to goto confession if you've done something wrong?

[Incognito]

Well, 99.9%* of 'Christian' churches, for a kick-off.

The point being, IMO, the vast majority of organised 'religion' is either:
1. A form of social control
2. A way to raise lots and lots of cash
3. A social club, or
4. A cult, see 1 and 2









*This statistic is completely made up.

WHS

[Diver]

Well, 99.9%* of 'Christian' churches, for a kick-off.

The point being, IMO, the vast majority of organised 'religion' is either:
1. A form of social control
2. A way to raise lots and lots of cash
3. A social club, or
4. A cult, see 1 and 2


*This statistic is completely made up.

All a bunch of cults if you ask me

[realityhack]

Such as?

Well, 99.9%* of 'Christian' churches, for a kick-off.

The point being, IMO, the vast majority of organised 'religion' is either:
1. A form of social control
2. A way to raise lots and lots of cash
3. A social club, or
4. A cult, see 1 and 2









*This statistic is completely made up.

[expat]

Also interesting that you should quote the Christian New Testament, for (the vast minority of) Christians believe in salvation by grace, not by works (or mans' efforts) alone. This aspect of Christianity makes it entirely unique. Note that many 'religions' masquerade as Christianity.

Such as?

[realityhack]

Why only man-made religions?

You are Peter and upon this rock 'I' will build 'my' Church." (Mat 16:19)

It was an interesting distinction that RH made, hence my question.

Also interesting that you should quote the Christian New Testament, for (the vast minority of) Christians believe in salvation by grace, not by works (or mans' efforts) alone. This aspect of Christianity makes it entirely unique. Note that many 'religions' masquerade as Christianity.

[Menelaus]

He's an MP. So he's the one who claims the £5.

WHS

[PM-Junkie]

Is there such thing as a Non man-made religion?

Of course there is.... the Jedi