The catholic church

[Menelaus]

He's an MP. So he's the one who claims the £5.

WHS

[realityhack]

Why only man-made religions?

You are Peter and upon this rock 'I' will build 'my' Church." (Mat 16:19)

It was an interesting distinction that RH made, hence my question.

Also interesting that you should quote the Christian New Testament, for (the vast minority of) Christians believe in salvation by grace, not by works (or mans' efforts) alone. This aspect of Christianity makes it entirely unique. Note that many 'religions' masquerade as Christianity.

[expat]

Also interesting that you should quote the Christian New Testament, for (the vast minority of) Christians believe in salvation by grace, not by works (or mans' efforts) alone. This aspect of Christianity makes it entirely unique. Note that many 'religions' masquerade as Christianity.

Such as?

[realityhack]

Such as?

Well, 99.9%* of 'Christian' churches, for a kick-off.

The point being, IMO, the vast majority of organised 'religion' is either:
1. A form of social control
2. A way to raise lots and lots of cash
3. A social club, or
4. A cult, see 1 and 2









*This statistic is completely made up.

[Diver]

Well, 99.9%* of 'Christian' churches, for a kick-off.

The point being, IMO, the vast majority of organised 'religion' is either:
1. A form of social control
2. A way to raise lots and lots of cash
3. A social club, or
4. A cult, see 1 and 2


*This statistic is completely made up.

All a bunch of cults if you ask me

[Incognito]

Well, 99.9%* of 'Christian' churches, for a kick-off.

The point being, IMO, the vast majority of organised 'religion' is either:
1. A form of social control
2. A way to raise lots and lots of cash
3. A social club, or
4. A cult, see 1 and 2









*This statistic is completely made up.

WHS

[Incognito]

But catholics are supposed to regulalrly go to confession and get absolved - so I'd have thought that meant that the church considers humans to be evil.

Any catholics care to comment?

I thought that the whole point of being baptised was for the for the remission of sins. Then you only have to goto confession if you've done something wrong?

[NotAllThere]

Also interesting that you should quote the Christian New Testament, for (the vast minority of) Christians believe in salvation by grace, not by works (or mans' efforts) alone. This aspect of Christianity makes it entirely unique. Note that many 'religions' masquerade as Christianity.

I've heard that explained as - all religions teach how to make yourself good enough for God. Christianity says you can't do it - but God can, and, apparently, is willing to.

Such as?

Catholicism, for example?

[NotAllThere]

I thought that the whole point of being baptised was for the for the remission of sins. Then you only have to goto confession if you've done something wrong?

Dunno. Notwithstanding my earlier comment, I don't know much about Catholic doctrine.

[realityhack]

I've heard that explained as - all religions teach how to make yourself good enough for God. Christianity says you can't do it - but God can, and, apparently, is willing to.

Spot on.